The unique H16 engined P115 BRM.
The unique H16 engined P115 BRM.
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FourWheelDrift

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92,293 posts

313 months

Monday 11th May 2009
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It's for sale !

Just spotted this, the one off lightweight P115 BRM used by Jackie Stewart in 1967 with that incredibly complex H16 engine. The other BRM team drivers used the P83 version of the car, same engine but heavier. It's a runner too. POA I bet it'll have 6 "0"s in it.

http://www.racecar.co.uk/hallandhall/stock_details...

I've always had a soft sport for the BRM.

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Ps. Weapon of choice in GPL. smile

Lord Croker

7,416 posts

218 months

Monday 11th May 2009
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POA indeed! The running costs would be horrendous, but worth it...

lord summerisle

8,174 posts

254 months

Monday 11th May 2009
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same car running (i think)

http://tinypic.com/r/2ykggea/5

recorded on my little compact camera at last years Pagent of Power

mattikake

5,116 posts

228 months

Monday 11th May 2009
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Can't compare to YT for proper vids... tongue outwink

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjEz-Rcets4

Oooh that gives me goose-bumps! biggrin

Manufacturers are missing a trick for a modern H-engine in a car today!

lord summerisle

8,174 posts

254 months

Monday 11th May 2009
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mattikake said:
Can't compare to YT for proper vids... tongue outwink

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjEz-Rcets4

Oooh that gives me goose-bumps! biggrin

Manufacturers are missing a trick for a modern H-engine in a car today!
thats the sound of the 1951 1500cc BRM v16 thats on the CD that accompanies Nick Mason's book. not the 3000cc H16 wink

stifler

37,069 posts

217 months

Monday 11th May 2009
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mattikake said:
Manufacturers are missing a trick for a modern H-engine in a car today!
They really aren't. The BRM was an interesting engineering exercise but the reliability aspect as well as the weight renders it an uncompetitive proposition, especially trying to fit it in the confines of a road car. That's before we even get tho the thermal inefficiencies of the unit.

mattikake

5,116 posts

228 months

Monday 11th May 2009
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lord summerisle said:
mattikake said:
Can't compare to YT for proper vids... tongue outwink

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjEz-Rcets4

Oooh that gives me goose-bumps! biggrin

Manufacturers are missing a trick for a modern H-engine in a car today!
thats the sound of the 1951 1500cc BRM v16 thats on the CD that accompanies Nick Mason's book. not the 3000cc H16 wink
Ha, well might be worth telling the owner of the vid then!

There's a few other BRM H-16 vids on YT. Sounded pretty similar to me.

FourWheelDrift

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92,293 posts

313 months

Monday 11th May 2009
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That's because they are all of the 1950s 1.5 litre supercharged V-16 BRM not the 1967 3 litre non-blown H-16. There are no H-16 you tube videos.

Firefox1

140 posts

229 months

Monday 11th May 2009
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The BRM H16 engine did win a Grand Prix in 1966, at Watkins Glen in the back of Jim Clarks Lotus!!

lord summerisle

8,174 posts

254 months

Monday 11th May 2009
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mattikake said:
lord summerisle said:
mattikake said:
Can't compare to YT for proper vids... tongue outwink

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjEz-Rcets4

Oooh that gives me goose-bumps! biggrin

Manufacturers are missing a trick for a modern H-engine in a car today!
thats the sound of the 1951 1500cc BRM v16 thats on the CD that accompanies Nick Mason's book. not the 3000cc H16 wink
Ha, well might be worth telling the owner of the vid then!

There's a few other BRM H-16 vids on YT. Sounded pretty similar to me.
Just because it is on YT, doesnt make it real wink

heres a link to the origonal audio: http://www.gjt.bme.hu/autosport/motorhangok/

jbudgie

10,036 posts

241 months

Monday 11th May 2009
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Firefox1 said:
The BRM H16 engine did win a Grand Prix in 1966, at Watkins Glen in the back of Jim Clarks Lotus!!
And expired as he crossed the line. !!

Holst

2,468 posts

250 months

Monday 11th May 2009
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Is there one of these in the donnington museum or is that the V-16?

My grandfather has a piston in his garage from a 1950's F1 engine, its very small smile I cant remember what engine it was from now.

lord summerisle

8,174 posts

254 months

Monday 11th May 2009
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jbudgie said:
Firefox1 said:
The BRM H16 engine did win a Grand Prix in 1966, at Watkins Glen in the back of Jim Clarks Lotus!!
And expired as he crossed the line. !!
about right in Chapman's eyes then. any further than the finish line and the car was over engineered smile

FourWheelDrift

Original Poster:

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313 months

Monday 11th May 2009
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Holst said:
Is there one of these in the donnington museum or is that the V-16?
There's both types. A Mk1 (light green, large radiator opening at the front) 1949 BRM V-16 and a 1954 dark green MkII V-16. - http://atspeedimages.com/search.php?s=BRM+V16+mk+I...

And a 1967 P83 H-16 with a spare engine alongside it. - http://atspeedimages.com/search.php?s=BRM+P83+Form...


Nobody You Know

8,422 posts

222 months

Monday 11th May 2009
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I love the way it sounds like an entire NASCAR race!

jbudgie

10,036 posts

241 months

Tuesday 12th May 2009
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lord summerisle said:
jbudgie said:
Firefox1 said:
The BRM H16 engine did win a Grand Prix in 1966, at Watkins Glen in the back of Jim Clarks Lotus!!
And expired as he crossed the line. !!
about right in Chapman's eyes then. any further than the finish line and the car was over engineered smile
Yes, perfection indeed. laughlaugh

mattikake

5,116 posts

228 months

Tuesday 12th May 2009
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Bugger. So is everyone telling me 1) I've never heard the H-16 and 2) it seems I never will? (at least not on a PC) frown

williamp

20,397 posts

302 months

Tuesday 12th May 2009
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mattikake said:
Bugger. So is everyone telling me 1) I've never heard the H-16 and 2) it seems I never will? (at least not on a PC) frown
I've never heard it either.

Oh and those v16 pistons would indeed by tiny: the whole engine is just 1.5 litres!

lord summerisle

8,174 posts

254 months

Tuesday 12th May 2009
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mattikake said:
Bugger. So is everyone telling me 1) I've never heard the H-16 and 2) it seems I never will? (at least not on a PC) frown
its a h-16 that i put up at tiny pic wink

mattikake

5,116 posts

228 months

Tuesday 12th May 2009
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lord summerisle said:
mattikake said:
Bugger. So is everyone telling me 1) I've never heard the H-16 and 2) it seems I never will? (at least not on a PC) frown
its a h-16 that i put up at tiny pic wink
Yeah it seems in hindsight a good rare upload, but starting up and rolling out is all well and good, but it's at full tilt that matters!