R10/15 TDI

[haggy]

With its V12 engine producing 811 ft.lbs of torque, how many buses/cars etc would that be able to pull?

[mdm123]

not alot, a standard city bus puts out anything from 1200Nm+

[Alfa_75_Steve]

So, it has about the same amount of torque as a bus, then?

[mdm123]

there not really compairable, a bus has about 260hp but a r10 will produce 700hp in qualifying.

anyway the pug is more powerful.

[chevronb37]

Sorry to be pedantic, but the R15 has a V10.

I have no answer to your previous question.

[anniesdad]

3?

[slivka]

chevronb37 said:

Sorry to be pedantic, but the R15 has a V10.

I have no answer to your previous question.

Yes, and diesels will be limited to V8 by 2011.

[chevronb37]

slivka said:

chevronb37 said:

Sorry to be pedantic, but the R15 has a V10.

I have no answer to your previous question.

Yes, and diesels will be limited to V8 by 2011.

I wish the ACO would stop slowing the cars down.

[Scuffers]

haggy said:

With its V12 engine producing 811 ft.lbs of torque, how many buses/cars etc would that be able to pull?

torque is over-rated...

Power is where it's at....

[slivka]

chevronb37 said:

slivka said:

chevronb37 said:

Sorry to be pedantic, but the R15 has a V10.

I have no answer to your previous question.

Yes, and diesels will be limited to V8 by 2011.

I wish the ACO would stop slowing the cars down.

Yes, but the diesels were grossly favored by the current rules.
As they (ACO) were not willing to allow the petrol engined cars to "catch" the diesels, they needed to reduce the "benefits" granted to the diesels.

[anonymous-user]

Scuffers said:

haggy said:

With its V12 engine producing 811 ft.lbs of torque, how many buses/cars etc would that be able to pull?

torque is over-rated...

Power is where it's at....

You've not driven a big block Can Am car have you!

[//j17]

Scuffers said:

haggy said:

With its V12 engine producing 811 ft.lbs of torque, how many buses/cars etc would that be able to pull?

torque is over-rated...

Power is where it's at....

I can't quite tell if this is meant as a joke, or you just don't understand how BHP is calculated...

[Scuffers]

johnfelstead said:

You've not driven a big block Can Am car have you!

Yes thank you, I have (M8)

//j17 said:

Scuffers said:

haggy said:

With its V12 engine producing 811 ft.lbs of torque, how many buses/cars etc would that be able to pull?

torque is over-rated...

Power is where it's at....

I can't quite tell if this is meant as a joke, or you just don't understand how BHP is calculated...

Half joking, but in all seriousness, I am sick and tired of people banging on about how much torque their Dismal makes, whilst totally ignoring the minuscule rev range said monster torque is delivered over.

Basic laws of physics, Power = Torque X rpm

For example point in having 800Lb/ft of torque if you only have it at 3,000-4,000 Rpm, compared to a petrol engine making a third the torque but revving to 19000+ rpm (and not requiring a pair of turbo's to do it)

[mat205125]

mdm123 said:

there not really compairable, a bus has about 260hp but a r10 will produce 700hp in qualifying.

And a tug of war between a whippet athlete, and a 25 stone builder, who can bench press the same weight is more about just strength.

[chevronb37]

slivka said:

chevronb37 said:

slivka said:

chevronb37 said:

Sorry to be pedantic, but the R15 has a V10.

I have no answer to your previous question.

Yes, and diesels will be limited to V8 by 2011.

I wish the ACO would stop slowing the cars down.

Yes, but the diesels were grossly favored by the current rules.
As they (ACO) were not willing to allow the petrol engined cars to "catch" the diesels, they needed to reduce the "benefits" granted to the diesels.

That is true, but the general trend towards slowing all cars isn't great.

[Scuffers]

mat205125 said:

mdm123 said:

there not really compairable, a bus has about 260hp but a r10 will produce 700hp in qualifying.

And a tug of war between a whippet athlete, and a 25 stone builder, who can bench press the same weight is more about just strength.

more to the point, it's called a gearbox.

give the whippet athlete a block and tackle over said builder and see what happens....

[slivka]

chevronb37 said:

slivka said:

chevronb37 said:

slivka said:

chevronb37 said:

Sorry to be pedantic, but the R15 has a V10.

I have no answer to your previous question.

Yes, and diesels will be limited to V8 by 2011.

I wish the ACO would stop slowing the cars down.

Yes, but the diesels were grossly favored by the current rules.
As they (ACO) were not willing to allow the petrol engined cars to "catch" the diesels, they needed to reduce the "benefits" granted to the diesels.

That is true, but the general trend towards slowing all cars isn't great.

We're in complete agreement!

[chevronb37]

slivka said:

chevronb37 said:

slivka said:

chevronb37 said:

slivka said:

chevronb37 said:

Sorry to be pedantic, but the R15 has a V10.

I have no answer to your previous question.

Yes, and diesels will be limited to V8 by 2011.

I wish the ACO would stop slowing the cars down.

Yes, but the diesels were grossly favored by the current rules.
As they (ACO) were not willing to allow the petrol engined cars to "catch" the diesels, they needed to reduce the "benefits" granted to the diesels.

That is true, but the general trend towards slowing all cars isn't great.

We're in complete agreement!

Watching Peter Sowerby's Nissan R90CK at last year's Silverstone Classic was incredible. It was still visibly and audibly accelerating hard at the end of the Hangar straight. By comparison, the Peugeots and Audis at the 1000kms a couple of months later were braking later and carrying more speed into Stowe, but not approaching with the same drama, nor accelerating to the same extent.

I suspect, given the number of high-profile prototype flips in the last 10-15 years, the underbody aero is very sensitive. Despite this, overall downforce should be decreased, but power could easily rise another 100bhp to allow a looser tail and more vivid acceleration. Would make a charming spectacle for us paying punters.

[zac510]

Well if there wasn't that trend by the manufacturers to keep speeding the cars up the ACO wouldn't need to slow them down

[anonymous-user]

Scuffers said:

johnfelstead said:

You've not driven a big block Can Am car have you!

Yes thank you, I have (M8)

Then you cant be serious about your statement when you've tried something with 800lbft over a 3000rpm rev band in a 850kg car, gears are optional.