evora sport button ?
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I don't get the point of the sport button. Lotuses have never had or needed a sports button before. It's like they are just copying or falling in line with this feature. Why would you just not want the sport button engaged all the time .... its a Lotus and you want it to be a Lotus surely .. its not an M5. It's not as if not pressing it will suddenely transform the car into a Range Rover that you can drive in total comfort to South Africa and back in.
what's more... why do you have to pay extra for the sports pack and hence the sports button and a higher redline ? Surely you should get this anyway rather than having the basic car penalised or 'detuned'.
what's more... why do you have to pay extra for the sports pack and hence the sports button and a higher redline ? Surely you should get this anyway rather than having the basic car penalised or 'detuned'.
Edited by jackal on Thursday 14th May 00:28
Bear in mind, this is Ltus's first GT for over ten years (the last major development of the Esprit was '95).
These days, modern engine management allows things far in advance of what was previously available.
While I agree with you in principle, a sports car will always be a lot more hard-edged than a GT car and you want to combine them in one.... there are times when you want a softer accelerator pedal, making actually using the car in stop-start traffic easier, but this is at odds with the sporting nature of the car where you want sharp pedal response... the sport button helps combine these two so that the driver can choose whether he wants the car to be aggressive or softer.... I don't see a problem with it.
These days, modern engine management allows things far in advance of what was previously available.
While I agree with you in principle, a sports car will always be a lot more hard-edged than a GT car and you want to combine them in one.... there are times when you want a softer accelerator pedal, making actually using the car in stop-start traffic easier, but this is at odds with the sporting nature of the car where you want sharp pedal response... the sport button helps combine these two so that the driver can choose whether he wants the car to be aggressive or softer.... I don't see a problem with it.
yeah, its marketing as usual ...theyve missed out the passe engine start button though and gone for "sport"
so by default, the Evora isnt sporty then? not until you get that extra 400rpm available? woopee doo
fair enough if it was 2 suspension settings or such like, so you could cruise along as normal, then go on track and have it firmed up ...that would be useful (and save getting out to twiddle knobs LOL)
so by default, the Evora isnt sporty then? not until you get that extra 400rpm available? woopee doo
fair enough if it was 2 suspension settings or such like, so you could cruise along as normal, then go on track and have it firmed up ...that would be useful (and save getting out to twiddle knobs LOL)
Esprit said:
Bear in mind, this is Ltus's first GT for over ten years (the last major development of the Esprit was '95).
These days, modern engine management allows things far in advance of what was previously available.
While I agree with you in principle, a sports car will always be a lot more hard-edged than a GT car and you want to combine them in one.... there are times when you want a softer accelerator pedal, making actually using the car in stop-start traffic easier, but this is at odds with the sporting nature of the car where you want sharp pedal response... the sport button helps combine these two so that the driver can choose whether he wants the car to be aggressive or softer.... I don't see a problem with it.
that i can just about understandThese days, modern engine management allows things far in advance of what was previously available.
While I agree with you in principle, a sports car will always be a lot more hard-edged than a GT car and you want to combine them in one.... there are times when you want a softer accelerator pedal, making actually using the car in stop-start traffic easier, but this is at odds with the sporting nature of the car where you want sharp pedal response... the sport button helps combine these two so that the driver can choose whether he wants the car to be aggressive or softer.... I don't see a problem with it.
but not the fact that you have to pay extra for the proper, extra revs...
Interestingly enough, these days a lot of the really high end sportbikes/superbikes have a dual-mode ECU that allows the user to prune the power down, soften the throttle response etc... given that even looking at the throttle on these bikes can send the handlebars over your head, sometimes it's nice to know that when you're lane-splitting or doing the early morning commute on the thing, a sneeze isn's going to result in your untimely doom.
F.C. said:
So why not have the standard car hard edged and then have an optional "touring button" to give a "softer" option for traffic etc.
I wonder how many people would spend their hard earned on that option alone
F.C.
Maybe because it's not a hard edged sports car? It's a GT, there's a difference. I wonder how many people would spend their hard earned on that option alone
F.C.
Edited by F.C. on Thursday 14th May 07:46
exactly ...its a fashion gimmick ...thats all ..even Ferraris have them - ever seen a non sporty Ferrari LOL 
its going to be the first Lotus ever loaded with pointless gizmos ...as thats what the mass market has become used to and the man in street will compare tick boxes of features...it better have DSP, ABS, electric everything, pedestrian avoidance etc etc
its going to be the first Lotus ever loaded with pointless gizmos ...as thats what the mass market has become used to and the man in street will compare tick boxes of features...it better have DSP, ABS, electric everything, pedestrian avoidance etc etc
It makes perfect sense to me to use available technology. If Lotus built the Evora as a hard edged Sports car then the critics would point to the Exige and ask why the need for the Evora and if it wasn't properly able to fulfil its role as a more relaxed drive when necessay it would be panned (Europa?).
I can only base my judgements on press reviews so far but it sounds like the perfect car for me when I find the Elise too hard edged: usable daily but also likely to be fun on track.
Job well done Lotus - at last a viable (and better?) mid range priced alternative to Porsche.
I can only base my judgements on press reviews so far but it sounds like the perfect car for me when I find the Elise too hard edged: usable daily but also likely to be fun on track.
Job well done Lotus - at last a viable (and better?) mid range priced alternative to Porsche.
hope its free and not an "upgrade" ...how the feck can you have 400rpm as an paid for upgrade in a sports car ....mind you , it would appear that "body colour door handles" are a paid for option too FFS !
mmm......is this normal on a £50K car, that it comes with black plastic coloured door handles straight ffrom the parts bin of some big manufacturer?
mmm......is this normal on a £50K car, that it comes with black plastic coloured door handles straight ffrom the parts bin of some big manufacturer?
jackal said:
I don't get the point of the sport button. Lotuses have never had or needed a sports button before. It's like they are just copying or falling in line with this feature. Why would you just not want the sport button engaged all the time .... its a Lotus and you want it to be a Lotus surely .. its not an M5. It's not as if not pressing it will suddenely transform the car into a Range Rover that you can drive in total comfort to South Africa and back in.
what's more... why do you have to pay extra for the sports pack and hence the sports button and a higher redline ? Surely you should get this anyway rather than having the basic car penalised or 'detuned'.
Profit. Porsche make loads of money on their options (although not enough to fend off VW!) and Lotus are simply looking to emulate that with their pricing structure. Porsche owners would be lost if they didn't have to trapse through a length options book when spec-ing their cars and the sport pack /button is a fairly direct copy of Porsche's sports chrono option minus the stopwatch.what's more... why do you have to pay extra for the sports pack and hence the sports button and a higher redline ? Surely you should get this anyway rather than having the basic car penalised or 'detuned'.
Edited by jackal on Thursday 14th May 00:28
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