1/4 Mile Times

[mrlol]

I'm currently sizing up the competition against a wortec carbon edition (or similar wortec tune)

Just looking in evo (www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/cargrouptests/227415/mercedesbenz_c63_amg_v_bmw_m3_saloon.html)

They had the C63 AMG do the 1/4 mile in 12.9 and a real world 0-60 of 4.7 and 0-100 of 10.3

Now apparently the wortec carbon edition is claimed at 0-60 of 4.5 and 0-100 of 9 !!

meaning that with a terminal speed of 113mph on the 1/4 mile run, the Wortec should be well into the 12s

But ive not seen any sub 13 second 1/4 mile times. Has anybody managed it ? or has the C63 got an unfair advantage due to being an auto ?

[vxrphantom]

If the weather holds out this sat then you will be able to see times for al sorts of variations of tune/VXR8/Monaro as we are going the shakesperes raceway for a drag day!!!

[mrlol]

aahh

ill wait for the results to get posted up next week then. Thanks

[monkfish1]

vxrphantom said:

If the weather holds out this sat then you will be able to see times for al sorts of variations of tune/VXR8/Monaro as we are going the shakesperes raceway for a drag day!!!

The only potential flaw is that decent times, especially in a manual, depend almost entirely on driver skill at launching and are not a reflection on the cars ability. The terminal speed is a good indicator of actual power.

[darren_r1]

0-60mph times
http://www.torquestats.com/index.php?pid=mph60


2007 Mercedes C63 AMG - Performance Statistics & Times
http://www.torquestats.com/index.php?car_id=391

Year Introduced 2007
Kerb Weight 1730kg
Engine Type V8
Valves 32 valve
Cylinders 8 cylinder
Aspiration Naturally Aspirated
Displacement 6208 cc
Fuel Petrol
Drive RWD
Transmission 7 Speed Automatic
Engine Location Front Mounted
BHP 451
Torque (lbs/ft) 443
BHP/Ton 265
0-60mph 4.4s
0-100mph 9.7s
60-100mph 5.3s
1/4 Mile 12.9s
Terminal Speed 116mph
Kilometre 22.9s
Top Speed (mph) 155
Nürburgring Lap Time N/A

[paramoreg]

monkfish1 said:

vxrphantom said:

If the weather holds out this sat then you will be able to see times for al sorts of variations of tune/VXR8/Monaro as we are going the shakesperes raceway for a drag day!!!

The only potential flaw is that decent times, especially in a manual, depend almost entirely on driver skill at launching and are not a reflection on the cars ability. The terminal speed is a good indicator of actual power.

Yeah I agree Roger, never having actually done a 1/4 mile drag race, I will most definitely be the biggest flaw in what my wortec carbon will do this weekend!!!

Edited by paramoreg on Friday 15th May 11:39

[Magic919]

mrlol said:

But ive not seen any sub 13 second 1/4 mile times. Has anybody managed it ?

You need to do some more investigating. S600VXR (12.4) and MyM8V8 (12.81) spring to mind.

[ringram]

paramoreg said:

monkfish1 said:

vxrphantom said:

If the weather holds out this sat then you will be able to see times for al sorts of variations of tune/VXR8/Monaro as we are going the shakesperes raceway for a drag day!!!

The only potential flaw is that decent times, especially in a manual, depend almost entirely on driver skill at launching and are not a reflection on the cars ability. The terminal speed is a good indicator of actual power.

Yeah I agree Roger, never having actually done a 1/4 mile drag race, I will most definitely be the biggest flaw in what my wortec carbon will do this weekend!!!

Some shocking excuses are coming out already

Maybe an automatic Nissan Micra would be more suitable for you guys?

[stevieturbo]

A terminal speed of 113mph would just scrape 12's on road tyres.


With sticky tyres, terminal speeds will drop a little, as will ET's

[paramoreg]

ringram said:

Some shocking excuses are coming out already

Maybe an automatic Nissan Micra would be more suitable for you guys?

I'll have you know I was making that excuse when I first said I was up for coming to the event!! At least I'm consistent Bit like the dyno day, I prefer to play it down and if it comes good (ie I miss the armco and get a good time) great!

[ringram]

Drag racing is one of the most safest types for you and the car. Basically just a hard lauch from start to around 100mph...
No corners etc.

[mrlol]

Magic919 said:

mrlol said:

But ive not seen any sub 13 second 1/4 mile times. Has anybody managed it ?

You need to do some more investigating. S600VXR (12.4) and MyM8V8 (12.81) spring to mind.

S600 VXR runs a monaro i believe ?

i was specificly thinking of a VXR8 / HSV Clubsport car.

[MyM8V8]

mrlol said:

I'm currently sizing up the competition against a wortec carbon edition (or similar wortec tune)

Just looking in evo (http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/cargrouptests/227415/mercedesbenz_c63_amg_v_bmw_m3_saloon.html)

They had the C63 AMG do the 1/4 mile in 12.9 and a real world 0-60 of 4.7 and 0-100 of 10.3

Now apparently the wortec carbon edition is claimed at 0-60 of 4.5 and 0-100 of 9 !!

meaning that with a terminal speed of 113mph on the 1/4 mile run, the Wortec should be well into the 12s

But ive not seen any sub 13 second 1/4 mile times. Has anybody managed it ? or has the C63 got an unfair advantage due to being an auto ?

Yes it has an advantage. That why all drag cars have auto boxes.


We have a guy V8HSV on here with a GTS-R modded who has done a 12.3 (FI-M6)) IIRC. S600VXR has done a 12.4 (FI -M6) Crestaracing has done a 12.5 (NA M-6) and I have a 12.7@116 (NA A4)

Where's that Merc?

[Drew SS]

i have my bookmakers license anyone one want to lay some bets

[mrlol]

is yours a VXR8 / R8 or a monaro ?

*edit* just checked your profile and it shows you have a maloo ute.

Wonder what a 470kw (630hp) Clubsport R8 would do ?

Edited by mrlol on Friday 15th May 13:53

[ringram]

Wait for next week. There are a few vxr8's around 450-500rwhp running this weekend, so we will see.

[mrlol]

500rwhp is crazy power and going to require going forged surely ? as it will be 700 + at the fly ?

I'm trying to find out how quick an out of the box wortec car with 630bhp will be

stevieturbo said:

A terminal speed of 113mph would just scrape 12's on road tyres.


With sticky tyres, terminal speeds will drop a little, as will ET's

Evo timed the C63 AMG at 12.9 over the 1/4 mile with ET 113mph. So yes it did just scrape 12s

My point was that the claimed 0-100 for the wortec is 9s, vs the tested 10.3 0-100 for the C63.

Given the 1 second difference in 0-100 times, id expect a 630 bhp VXR8 to be running below the 12.9 the C63 ran. Just wondering if anybody with a wortec VXR8 with 630bhp (same as the carbon edition) has tried it to compare ?

Edited by mrlol on Friday 15th May 14:01

[ringram]

mrlol said:

500rwhp is crazy power and going to require going forged surely ? as it will be 700 + at the fly ?

Well one vxr8 was 480rwhp odd on the dyno day, I managed 454rwhp untuned (2nd placed vxr8), plus Ive not seen what an LS3 SC does, should be fairly healthy.
So it wont be long before someone hits 500. That being said mine is forged NA. Losses are around 20% or so, maybe only 650fwhp is required for 500rwhp.
Im aiming at 500rwhp, Im now half tuned, just spark timing to go. If I dont quite make it a review of camshaft profiles will be done! But Im confident its doable as it is with natural aspiration

[stigmundfreud]

Isnt ia a shame road runner dont do one for yours Rich

[ringram]

Yes mate, Im expecting to spend a painful duration on the dyno with loads of stop/starts and open excel sheets.