New F1 teams for 2010
Discussion
garycat said:
Can Spanky back down on the budget cap with 4 teams showing serious interest?
We'll find out later! Would he rather have four new teams, or keep half a dozen established teams?rev-erend said:
and Britannia Racing .. from Essex .. if their Euro millions comes up 
Ah yes, forgot about them 
I want Ferrari, McLaren, Renault, RedBull, BMW and Toyota to all quit in 2010 so Mosley would get ousted from his post. F1 might might need a couple of years of failure for things to get better.
If the lesser teams get in on the £40 million budget cap, it's not really F1 with the innovation is it? They'll be having races to see which cars can go slowest.
If the lesser teams get in on the £40 million budget cap, it's not really F1 with the innovation is it? They'll be having races to see which cars can go slowest.
amare32 said:
I want Ferrari, McLaren, Renault, RedBull, BMW and Toyota to all quit in 2010 so Mosley would get ousted from his post. F1 might might need a couple of years of failure for things to get better.
If the lesser teams get in on the £40 million budget cap, it's not really F1 with the innovation is it? They'll be having races to see which cars can go slowest.
With the freedom on technical specs the capped teams would likely be considerably faster. Hence the chagrin of the big teams.If the lesser teams get in on the £40 million budget cap, it's not really F1 with the innovation is it? They'll be having races to see which cars can go slowest.
I heard 9 applications for the 3 places available. 2 are from the US, and apart fom Lola and Aston Martin I don't know the others.
artov60 said:
amare32 said:
I want Ferrari, McLaren, Renault, RedBull, BMW and Toyota to all quit in 2010 so Mosley would get ousted from his post. F1 might might need a couple of years of failure for things to get better.
If the lesser teams get in on the £40 million budget cap, it's not really F1 with the innovation is it? They'll be having races to see which cars can go slowest.
With the freedom on technical specs the capped teams would likely be considerably faster. Hence the chagrin of the big teams.If the lesser teams get in on the £40 million budget cap, it's not really F1 with the innovation is it? They'll be having races to see which cars can go slowest.
I heard 9 applications for the 3 places available. 2 are from the US, and apart fom Lola and Aston Martin I don't know the others.
Quite plainly he doesn't need them.
Scuffers said:
of said possibles the real issue is how serious they are...
if, as current rules state, they have to design and make their own cars, what's the betting that list suddenly shrinks?
Also, can any of them afford the £M's upfront bond? (or is this to be waived too??)
Well the Aston Martin Prodrive entry has Arab money- that suggests a better backing than any existing teams!if, as current rules state, they have to design and make their own cars, what's the betting that list suddenly shrinks?
Also, can any of them afford the £M's upfront bond? (or is this to be waived too??)
artov60 said:
Scuffers said:
of said possibles the real issue is how serious they are...
if, as current rules state, they have to design and make their own cars, what's the betting that list suddenly shrinks?
Also, can any of them afford the £M's upfront bond? (or is this to be waived too??)
Well the Aston Martin Prodrive entry has Arab money- that suggests a better backing than any existing teams!if, as current rules state, they have to design and make their own cars, what's the betting that list suddenly shrinks?
Also, can any of them afford the £M's upfront bond? (or is this to be waived too??)
Duke of Rothesay said:
artov60 said:
amare32 said:
I want Ferrari, McLaren, Renault, RedBull, BMW and Toyota to all quit in 2010 so Mosley would get ousted from his post. F1 might might need a couple of years of failure for things to get better.
If the lesser teams get in on the £40 million budget cap, it's not really F1 with the innovation is it? They'll be having races to see which cars can go slowest.
With the freedom on technical specs the capped teams would likely be considerably faster. Hence the chagrin of the big teams.If the lesser teams get in on the £40 million budget cap, it's not really F1 with the innovation is it? They'll be having races to see which cars can go slowest.
I heard 9 applications for the 3 places available. 2 are from the US, and apart fom Lola and Aston Martin I don't know the others.
Quite plainly he doesn't need them.
Not only does Mosley not "need" the manufacturers, he doesn't want them either. It's so much easier to push around independents whose only business is racing, whose funding is marginal, and who thus are completely dependent on the grace of the regulator. Do you think that Frank Williams has been supportive of the FIA in the last few years merely out of philosophical principle?
Regardless of whether Mosley needs the manufacturers, Bernie and CVC clearly need them, and most fans want them.
Scuffers said:
artov60 said:
Scuffers said:
of said possibles the real issue is how serious they are...
if, as current rules state, they have to design and make their own cars, what's the betting that list suddenly shrinks?
Also, can any of them afford the £M's upfront bond? (or is this to be waived too??)
Well the Aston Martin Prodrive entry has Arab money- that suggests a better backing than any existing teams!if, as current rules state, they have to design and make their own cars, what's the betting that list suddenly shrinks?
Also, can any of them afford the £M's upfront bond? (or is this to be waived too??)
artov60 said:
Scuffers said:
artov60 said:
Scuffers said:
of said possibles the real issue is how serious they are...
if, as current rules state, they have to design and make their own cars, what's the betting that list suddenly shrinks?
Also, can any of them afford the £M's upfront bond? (or is this to be waived too??)
Well the Aston Martin Prodrive entry has Arab money- that suggests a better backing than any existing teams!if, as current rules state, they have to design and make their own cars, what's the betting that list suddenly shrinks?
Also, can any of them afford the £M's upfront bond? (or is this to be waived too??)
most have based they finances on oil at $70+ a barrel, and it's not been there for some time (Saudis work on ~$50), combine that with a total lack of demand for oil, and you have several very broke arab nations....
pies said:
Ferrari to pull out and be replaced by
fiat
Or maserati?fiat
Max was on the radio tonight saying that there's no rush for the introduction of the budget cap. We are looking at Melbourne next year not Monaco next week etc etc.
TBH that wouldn't exactly inspire confidence if i was one of the leaders of the various interested parties that has put there name forward as wanting to be involved in the circus as a result of the proposed budget cap.
To stand a chance of building a team, designing a car etc etc for 2010 these new teams need to know that the rules are in place and agreed now (i assume), not in 6 to 9 months time.
Based on max's comments i would be suprised to see any of these new teams on the grid next year.
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