Expenses and Exchange Rate
Expenses and Exchange Rate
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Zen.

Original Poster:

794 posts

226 months

Friday 15th May 2009
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I've searched the HMRC website and can't find an answer, also emailed my accountant but I'm not sure his answer is correct.

I have some business expenses which are in €, I paid cash so what rate of exchange should I use?

I normally put an expense claim in once a month if that make a difference.

Mx_Stu

837 posts

254 months

Friday 15th May 2009
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I would have thought the exchange rate when you (presumably) took cash out of the ATM?

Zen.

Original Poster:

794 posts

226 months

Friday 15th May 2009
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These were Euros I've had for well over two years, so I wouldn't expect to get that rate, there must be a definitive rate the HMRC require you to use, I just can't find it.

spikeyhead

20,639 posts

228 months

Friday 15th May 2009
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So long as you can justify it, then the tax man will usually accept it. As its been so long since you bought your Euros, I suspect that it will be much easier to use the tourist rate for the day you paid for things.

Eric Mc

125,920 posts

296 months

Friday 15th May 2009
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The exchange rate as per the date the actual expense was incurred is the accurate method for converting.

Doing this for every individual receipt might be rather tedious though.

An "average" rate e.g. the rate at the beginning of the period the costs were incurred added to the rate at the end of the period divided by two - or the exchange rate at the time the cash was withdrawn (provided it wasn't too far removed in time from the date the costs were actually incurred) will be allowable as well.

Zen.

Original Poster:

794 posts

226 months

Friday 15th May 2009
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Eric Mc said:
The exchange rate as per the date the actual expense was incurred is the accurate method for converting.

Doing this for every individual receipt might be rather tedious though.

An "average" rate e.g. the rate at the beginning of the period the costs were incurred added to the rate at the end of the period divided by two - or the exchange rate at the time the cash was withdrawn (provided it wasn't too far removed in time from the date the costs were actually incurred) will be allowable as well.
Thanks Eric, whose rate do I use, looking around today, everyones rate varies a little.

Electron

605 posts

250 months

Friday 15th May 2009
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I use a Credit Card and my statement has both the £ value of the euro transation but also the associated exchange rate.

For cash I use the currency converter on www.ft.com and list it as the conversion mechanism.


viggen114

259 posts

284 months

Friday 15th May 2009
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I always use the published rate for the month from the Customs and Excise side of HMRC.
So for this month the rate for the Euro is 1.117.

Apologies if the references change, but that is HMRC.

Zen.

Original Poster:

794 posts

226 months

Friday 15th May 2009
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viggen114 said:
I always use the published rate for the month from the Customs and Excise side of HMRC.
So for this month the rate for the Euro is 1.117.

Apologies if the references change, but that is HMRC.
Excellent; that was the one I was searching for, just feel happier using a rate supplied by HMRC even though VAT is not relevant in this case.

Eric Mc

125,920 posts

296 months

Saturday 16th May 2009
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I use the HMRC rates as well. They can't argue with you if you have used the rates they publish.