Authentification please

Authentification please

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DKL

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4,492 posts

222 months

Saturday 16th May 2009
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Omega-Seamaster-600-date-cla...

I rather like the look of this but shouldn't it have a seamaster back?
I was too chicken to post an ebay link on TZ, I didn't think it would be approved of!
Thanks

GC8

19,910 posts

190 months

Saturday 16th May 2009
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Looks right enough to me, although dear. I have a couple of similar watches (135.011 and 136.0xx) and both have a smooth back with a lightly etched Seamaster emblem: neither are as I think youre expecting.

Has the dial been refinished: Id suspect that it has?

GC8

19,910 posts

190 months

Saturday 16th May 2009
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Looking again I wonder if its been over-polished and virtually polished out? In light of this Id suspect that the dial had been tarted up too. I have a 136.011 with a C610 which has a similar windowed dial. Its virtually 100% with Chronostop type second markers, but its very, very unusual to find one so clean...

GC8

19,910 posts

190 months

Saturday 16th May 2009
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Its got the wrong case back on it, hasnt it? It should be a 136.011, not a 135.011.

DKL

Original Poster:

4,492 posts

222 months

Saturday 16th May 2009
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Thanks GC8 - been looking for a while. Most of these go for 250-300 so is this a rather high?

ShadownINja

76,368 posts

282 months

Saturday 16th May 2009
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Tis nice, though. Not a bad size at 37mm, either.

DKL

Original Poster:

4,492 posts

222 months

Saturday 16th May 2009
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Ah well - seemed a bit pricey to me in the end. Someone wanted it!
I'll keep looking.

GC8

19,910 posts

190 months

Saturday 16th May 2009
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Happy to help. I think that it was best left as it looked like a toffee apple to me.

It certainly didnt measure 37mm either! Ive just measured a couple and theyre 33mm-34mm.

ETA: £331? fking hell! That was a £150 watch, at the very most.

Edited by GC8 on Saturday 16th May 22:14

DKL

Original Poster:

4,492 posts

222 months

Saturday 16th May 2009
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If you find one for 150 let me know will you!

GC8

19,910 posts

190 months

Saturday 16th May 2009
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Just over a year ago, I bought 2 Calibre 6xx Seamasters and a Cal.1012 Dynamic: all for under £130 a piece. It all depends on the day; but youll do well to be looking for a good watch rather than a shiny watch, because theyre seldom the same thing.

AlexKP

16,484 posts

244 months

Sunday 17th May 2009
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DKL said:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Omega-Seamaster-600-date-cla...

I rather like the look of this but shouldn't it have a seamaster back?
I was too chicken to post an ebay link on TZ, I didn't think it would be approved of!
Thanks
I've posted links to ebay on TZ - doesn't seem to be a problem at all.

Lil' Joe

1,548 posts

186 months

Sunday 17th May 2009
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GC8 said:
It all depends on the day; but youll do well to be looking for a good watch rather than a shiny watch, because theyre seldom the same thing.
How does an amateur go about seperating the wheat from the chaff?

lowdrag

12,894 posts

213 months

Sunday 17th May 2009
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The first thing I did was to look at the vendor. 5763 trades with an almost perfect record (99.7% so someone moaned somewhere) would give me confidence to buy from him.

ShadownINja

76,368 posts

282 months

Sunday 17th May 2009
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Lil' Joe said:
GC8 said:
It all depends on the day; but youll do well to be looking for a good watch rather than a shiny watch, because theyre seldom the same thing.
How does an amateur go about seperating the wheat from the chaff?
Keep looking at watches for sale for ages and ages. I mean months. I suspect GC8 has been doing this for years.

Edited by ShadownINja on Sunday 17th May 11:19

DKL

Original Poster:

4,492 posts

222 months

Sunday 17th May 2009
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I'm intrigued by all these watches from India etc. I wouldn't touch them with a barge pole but there appears to be decent feedback and they certainly sell for decent money.
So what are they? Bitsas made from genuine parts by skilled people or something rather less genuine.
Or are they the genuine article?

GC8

19,910 posts

190 months

Monday 18th May 2009
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Frankenwatches: maybe. Even if thats not the case then theyre usually over-polished with relatively poorly re-finished dials; so I think that its relatively safe to say that they started out looking as though someone had played underwater street hockey with them.

You can learn a lot if you keep watching, as suggested. My criteria would be as follows (for older Omegas):

Working relatively well, with no signs of water ingress.
Clean dial, because dials are hard-to-impossible to find.
Clean case, but not one thats been polished.
Hands dont matter, theyre easily available and relatively cheap.
Crystal doesnt matter: hesalite crystals as above.
An original crown is nice but, as above: theyre not a problem.
The strap doesnt matter because even an original part will probably be worn and replacements only cost £20-ish.
A signed buckle is nice but as above: theyre not expensive and £30 will easily buy a genuine new strap and buckle.
Expect to pay £55-£75 for a service which'll make it as good as it can be and the parts will be fitted for free too.

Now youre looking for completely different watches to may eBay punters and youll end up with a massively superior watch for considerably less money. So much less in fact, that youll be able to buy a beads of rice bracelet and a NOS box with the difference. One further point: bracelets make a difference, especially if the bracelet is desirable, but this doesnt apply to integrated bracelet watches. You might even find that a new bracelet for these models can be bought for very little from Bob Frei (as they only suit one or two cases and demand is low).

GC8

19,910 posts

190 months

Wednesday 20th May 2009
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&am...

Of course, you only ever know what the fellow with the second highest bid was prepared to oay, but this looked like a good bet. Unfortunately Id forgotten that I was watching it...