Nurburgring 24 hours - TV Coverage
Nurburgring 24 hours - TV Coverage
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Piers917

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565 posts

253 months

Monday 18th May 2009
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Does anyone know if there is any coverage of the 'Ring 24 hours on this weekend? ISTR there was some on Motors TV or Eurosport last year.
Thanks.

freedman

6,015 posts

236 months

Monday 18th May 2009
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http://adac.24h-rennen.de/en.html

The whole race is usually streamed live, just cmbine with Radio Le Mans for commentary

Piers917

Original Poster:

565 posts

253 months

Monday 18th May 2009
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Thanks for that smile

norman156

2,097 posts

225 months

Monday 18th May 2009
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This is probably a bit of a stupid question, but with that many teams in the Nurburgring 24h (200 or whatever it is) where would the teams base themselves over the course of the race? There's obviously not going to be enough room in the pit garages... Just curious really

Edited by norman156 on Monday 18th May 22:50

Joe911

2,763 posts

264 months

Monday 18th May 2009
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norman156 said:
This is probably a bit of a stupid question, but with that many teams in the Nurburgring 24h (200 or whatever it is) where would the teams base themselves over the course of the race? There's obviously not going to be enough room in the pit garages... Just curious really
Each pit box is shared between about 6 cars - and there are 30 boxes - so that's 180 cars. The paddock area behind the pits is used to full effect with most teams having hospitality and prep/repair facilities, trucks, tents - the usual stuff.


Altrezia

8,741 posts

240 months

Monday 18th May 2009
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Wow. I didn't even know this was on. Will try and watch it. Cheers!

flemke

23,493 posts

266 months

Tuesday 19th May 2009
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Unfortunately, this year's event may be devalued considerably.

The race organisers, who may or may not have been influenced by the fact that Audi has become a major sponsor and last year and this contributed more than 40 course cars to the event (rolleyes), have made a mockery of the regulations.

For the Porsches, BMWs, Vipers and other cars that have been competing for years in the race, over which time they have been painstakingly developed into fast and dependable endurance racers, a new set of rules has been imposed. These include tiny air restrictors, rev limits, and even a special restriction on the rate of refueling flow.
Oddly enough, the 4 factory Audi R8 GT3s, competing for the first time this year, are exempt from these restrictions.

phatgixer

4,988 posts

278 months

Tuesday 19th May 2009
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flemke said:
Unfortunately, this year's event may be devalued considerably.

The race organisers, who may or may not have been influenced by the fact that Audi has become a major sponsor and last year and this contributed more than 40 course cars to the event (rolleyes), have made a mockery of the regulations.

For the Porsches, BMWs, Vipers and other cars that have been competing for years in the race, over which time they have been painstakingly developed into fast and dependable endurance racers, a new set of rules has been imposed. These include tiny air restrictors, rev limits, and even a special restriction on the rate of refueling flow.
Oddly enough, the 4 factory Audi R8 GT3s, competing for the first time this year, are exempt from these restrictions.
The Porsche / VAG internecine war being fought out in the boardrooms and the stock market is now set to spill out on the track! I think the Stuttgart boys will still do it..

Rob_R

2,459 posts

274 months

Tuesday 19th May 2009
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flemke said:
Unfortunately, this year's event may be devalued considerably.

The race organisers, who may or may not have been influenced by the fact that Audi has become a major sponsor and last year and this contributed more than 40 course cars to the event (rolleyes), have made a mockery of the regulations.

For the Porsches, BMWs, Vipers and other cars that have been competing for years in the race, over which time they have been painstakingly developed into fast and dependable endurance racers, a new set of rules has been imposed. These include tiny air restrictors, rev limits, and even a special restriction on the rate of refueling flow.
Oddly enough, the 4 factory Audi R8 GT3s, competing for the first time this year, are exempt from these restrictions.
Not going to be competing this year then?

Dakkon

7,832 posts

282 months

Tuesday 19th May 2009
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flemke said:
Unfortunately, this year's event may be devalued considerably.

The race organisers, who may or may not have been influenced by the fact that Audi has become a major sponsor and last year and this contributed more than 40 course cars to the event (rolleyes), have made a mockery of the regulations.

For the Porsches, BMWs, Vipers and other cars that have been competing for years in the race, over which time they have been painstakingly developed into fast and dependable endurance racers, a new set of rules has been imposed. These include tiny air restrictors, rev limits, and even a special restriction on the rate of refueling flow.
Oddly enough, the 4 factory Audi R8 GT3s, competing for the first time this year, are exempt from these restrictions.
frown I did not know that we head over on Thursday morning for this race.

slivka

131 posts

251 months

Tuesday 19th May 2009
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flemke said:
Unfortunately, this year's event may be devalued considerably.

The race organisers, who may or may not have been influenced by the fact that Audi has become a major sponsor and last year and this contributed more than 40 course cars to the event (rolleyes), have made a mockery of the regulations.

For the Porsches, BMWs, Vipers and other cars that have been competing for years in the race, over which time they have been painstakingly developed into fast and dependable endurance racers, a new set of rules has been imposed. These include tiny air restrictors, rev limits, and even a special restriction on the rate of refueling flow.
Oddly enough, the 4 factory Audi R8 GT3s, competing for the first time this year, are exempt from these restrictions.
You are correct (to a point)
They have fiddled the regulations so much, that the Porsche 997RSR is in fact 16Km/h slower than the Porsche Cup S in a straight line! The RSR is still slightly faster around the track but only due to it's down force.
They have given the Audi 20Kg ballast, but then allowed them to increase the revs on their cars from 7,500 to 8,500.
The whole thing is ridiculous!

norman156

2,097 posts

225 months

Tuesday 19th May 2009
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Joe911 said:
norman156 said:
This is probably a bit of a stupid question, but with that many teams in the Nurburgring 24h (200 or whatever it is) where would the teams base themselves over the course of the race? There's obviously not going to be enough room in the pit garages... Just curious really
Each pit box is shared between about 6 cars - and there are 30 boxes - so that's 180 cars. The paddock area behind the pits is used to full effect with most teams having hospitality and prep/repair facilities, trucks, tents - the usual stuff.
Ah I see. Must be a tight squeeze in each pit box... Anyway that answers my question, cheers thumbup

Edited by norman156 on Tuesday 19th May 08:50

rev-erend

21,619 posts

313 months

Tuesday 19th May 2009
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It's the AUDI corporate buy out of the fun that was Le Mans that stopped me attending .. I had hoped the N24 might be worth supporting .. but looks like AUDI is intent on buying that too..

Shame for the fans of racing ..

stifler

37,069 posts

217 months

Tuesday 19th May 2009
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norman156 said:
Joe911 said:
norman156 said:
This is probably a bit of a stupid question, but with that many teams in the Nurburgring 24h (200 or whatever it is) where would the teams base themselves over the course of the race? There's obviously not going to be enough room in the pit garages... Just curious really
Each pit box is shared between about 6 cars - and there are 30 boxes - so that's 180 cars. The paddock area behind the pits is used to full effect with most teams having hospitality and prep/repair facilities, trucks, tents - the usual stuff.
Ah I see. Must be a tight squeeze in each pit box... Anyway that answers my question, cheers thumbup

Edited by norman156 on Tuesday 19th May 08:50
Very cramped. Especially when you are running an M3 GTR. It was so wide that you only just had enough room to walk between the cars. We had to stagger the cars in the garage to get the doors to open! Nightmare! But if you have a shunt everyone mucks in, its great for cameraderie.

flemke

23,493 posts

266 months

Tuesday 19th May 2009
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Dakkon said:
flemke said:
Unfortunately, this year's event may be devalued considerably.

The race organisers, who may or may not have been influenced by the fact that Audi has become a major sponsor and last year and this contributed more than 40 course cars to the event (rolleyes), have made a mockery of the regulations.

For the Porsches, BMWs, Vipers and other cars that have been competing for years in the race, over which time they have been painstakingly developed into fast and dependable endurance racers, a new set of rules has been imposed. These include tiny air restrictors, rev limits, and even a special restriction on the rate of refueling flow.
Oddly enough, the 4 factory Audi R8 GT3s, competing for the first time this year, are exempt from these restrictions.
frown I did not know that we head over on Thursday morning for this race.
It's entirely possible that this year's race will be good in the sense that probably more cars than has been usual lately will have a real chance to win.
It's just a pity that they've achieved this by imposing artificial penalties on the best cars for the purpose of giving a well-funded factory group a leg up.

Antj

1,147 posts

229 months

Tuesday 19th May 2009
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Saw the Audi R8 GT cars at a VLN race a few weeks back at the ring. They looked pretty awesome.

flemke

23,493 posts

266 months

Tuesday 19th May 2009
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Antj said:
Saw the Audi R8 GT cars at a VLN race a few weeks back at the ring. They looked pretty awesome.
They're good cars, and Audi have brought in a battalion of top shelf men to drive them. It's just that at this point they're not competitive with the Porsches, Vipers, etc, so, rather than requiring Audi to up their game, the organisers have manipulated the rules to slow down the better cars.

slivka

131 posts

251 months

Tuesday 19th May 2009
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The Audi is a GT3 car and should not be competitive in relation to a Porsche RSR (which is a GT2 car). The ridiculousness of it all, is that they have messed with the rules in order to allow the GT3 spec cars (read Audi) to compete for the overall win.
Any rule changes that distort reality are always pathetic!(as are the pro-diesel rules for LMP1's)

norman156

2,097 posts

225 months

Tuesday 19th May 2009
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stifler said:
Very cramped. Especially when you are running an M3 GTR. It was so wide that you only just had enough room to walk between the cars. We had to stagger the cars in the garage to get the doors to open! Nightmare! But if you have a shunt everyone mucks in, its great for cameraderie.
Will deffinately have to watch some of the race this weekend just to see how they manage it. Out of interest what was you're involvement with the M3 GTR, driver/pit crew/other etc?

stifler

37,069 posts

217 months

Tuesday 19th May 2009
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norman156 said:
stifler said:
Very cramped. Especially when you are running an M3 GTR. It was so wide that you only just had enough room to walk between the cars. We had to stagger the cars in the garage to get the doors to open! Nightmare! But if you have a shunt everyone mucks in, its great for cameraderie.
Will deffinately have to watch some of the race this weekend just to see how they manage it. Out of interest what was you're involvement with the M3 GTR, driver/pit crew/other etc?
No 1 mech. We took the car there on the tuesday, Had three hours sleep between then and the saturday. The car was basically stripped and rebuilt properly, it was an ex-dutch touring car. the most sleep I actually had that week was during the race lying down on a mechanics creeper (until some barsteward pulled me into the pitlane on it). Then I drove the truck back on the monday. It is the best race meeting that I have ever attended in any capacity.

This is the car after a repaint.