Cheap Insurance for 17 year olds in BMWs?
Cheap Insurance for 17 year olds in BMWs?
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CarbonBlackM3

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15 posts

203 months

Tuesday 19th May 2009
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Having an opportunity to buy something exotic like a classic Ferrari or even a BMW 'M' car like the e34 m5, I am dissapointed that I cannot find a company that has classic car policies for 17 year olds.

I have a clean license and would be listed as the 2nd or 3rd driver.

Thanks in advance for your feedback/advice.

Dracoro

8,999 posts

269 months

Tuesday 19th May 2009
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Who is *really* going to be the main driver?

You'll have a job anyway and if you find somewhere, it'll be V expensive.

I'm guessing once you've had a years claim and points free there'll be more deals (still expensive but not as much as now).

E36GUY

5,906 posts

242 months

Wednesday 20th May 2009
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Oh good. Another M car about to be consigned to the scrappy.

clarkmagpie

3,668 posts

219 months

Wednesday 20th May 2009
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i thought half term was next week???

Deniz.S

91 posts

219 months

Wednesday 20th May 2009
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Am I missing something, you claim to have owned an E36 Evo and E46 M3 since you started driving and you're currently 17...

How can you be having trouble finding insurance for a vintage car given you must be paying thousands for your current car?

CarbonBlackM3

Original Poster:

15 posts

203 months

Wednesday 20th May 2009
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I am actually using my dads account for this forum, he was the owner of the e36 m3 evo and is currently the owner of the E46 M3.

Nice to see that everyone thinks that the car is going to the scrappy...i can asure you I am not a boy racer.


dan101smith

17,013 posts

235 months

Wednesday 20th May 2009
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Very few companies will do classic policies for drivers under 25. Most want over 30s.

You must have a very flexible budget if you're looking at E34 M5s (circa £5k) and Ferraris (circa, what, £20k?). Can you afford to run either of them?

Dracoro

8,999 posts

269 months

Wednesday 20th May 2009
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CarbonBlackM3 said:
I am actually using my dads account for this forum
It's quite easy to create a new logon for yourself. It'll avoid a lot of confusion.

Anyway, in answer to my question, why would you be down as the 2nd or 3rd driver? If you really are going to be the main driver (insurers will find out you know) then this is probably "fronting" and you'll be putting yourself forward for a LOT of trouble.

Edited by Dracoro on Wednesday 20th May 09:30

Soovy

35,829 posts

295 months

Wednesday 20th May 2009
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CarbonBlackM3 said:
I am actually using my dads account for this forum, he was the owner of the e36 m3 evo and is currently the owner of the E46 M3.

Nice to see that everyone thinks that the car is going to the scrappy...i can asure you I am not a boy racer.
Sorry mate, you will have to buy a 1.0 Fiesta like the rest of us had to. The right to drive a fast car needs to be EARNED like everything else in life. For what it's worth I know the lawyer who represents an 18 year old Premier League footballer's interests, and he pays £26,000 a year to insure a DB9 with a £10,000 excess.


Do a search for the thread on here about the 18 year old who was boasting about being allowed to drive his Dad's M5 and who then killed himself and four friends that night.


Oh, and another thing. Before you consider being a "named driver" do a search for the "Fronting Bint" thread where a dumb teenage b1tch posted boasting about her 330Ci which her Dad insured for here with Saga - she crashed and the insurers told her tough you're not insured. She lost £20k.



Edited by Soovy on Wednesday 20th May 09:39

Rob.

17,911 posts

242 months

Wednesday 20th May 2009
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CarbonBlackM3 said:
Having an opportunity to buy something exotic like a classic Ferrari
At 17? Don't make me laugh.

Rob.

17,911 posts

242 months

Wednesday 20th May 2009
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(For context, this comment relates to the comment that Soovy and others have quoted by the OP below)

It's all very well being able to afford to buy a car but affording to run it is another thing altogether.

Edited by Rob. on Wednesday 20th May 18:37

dan101smith

17,013 posts

235 months

Wednesday 20th May 2009
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And you can afford to run a £15k Ferrari at 17? How much do you think that will cost?

You'll find that you can drive other cars with third party only cover IF you are insured fully comprehensive on your own policy, AND your policy explicitly states that you are covered to drive other car. Very few, if any, companies will include that for someone of your age.

Soovy

35,829 posts

295 months

Wednesday 20th May 2009
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CarbonBlackM3 said:
Yes a Ferrari....there are some older cars for as little as £15000 which is the price of a new mondeo.
Also just got a quote on a Range Rover 4.0 V8 but not particularly fast, just a nice cruiser which is insurance group 14 for £1795.00!
Also the small print on some insurance policies says that even unnamed drivers can drive a particular car if they are fully comp on another which they own but the excess with automatically go up to £1000.

Which basically means if I drive carefully, my dad may just let me drive his car, also I am not some 18 year old tt who runs around a football all day. Those of you who are real enthusiasts will know that a high performance car does not mean you thrash it around the roads, its just for the more refined drive.
You're dreaming.

There is NO WAY that you got fully comprehensive in your own name on a Range Rover at 17.

I call bu111s4t.

Oh and the "any vehicle" cover will only be valid when you are fully comprehensive in your own name on your own vehicle, and if and only if the insurer agrees to this and puts it on your policy. which they won't in order to stop people like you doing what you're talking about.

Listen. I am 38, with ten years no claims bonus and I've had a licence for 21 years. My Porsche has a Tracker and is locked up overnight in a guarded car park, and I pay well over £1000 a year.


It must be half term.



Edited by Soovy on Wednesday 20th May 11:59

E36GUY

5,906 posts

242 months

Wednesday 20th May 2009
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Soovy said:
CarbonBlackM3 said:
Yes a Ferrari....there are some older cars for as little as £15000 which is the price of a new mondeo.
Also just got a quote on a Range Rover 4.0 V8 but not particularly fast, just a nice cruiser which is insurance group 14 for £1795.00!
Also the small print on some insurance policies says that even unnamed drivers can drive a particular car if they are fully comp on another which they own but the excess with automatically go up to £1000.

Which basically means if I drive carefully, my dad may just let me drive his car, also I am not some 18 year old tt who runs around a football all day. Those of you who are real enthusiasts will know that a high performance car does not mean you thrash it around the roads, its just for the more refined drive.
You're dreaming.

There is NO WAY that you got fully comprehensive in your own name on a Range Rover at 17.

I call bu111s4t.

Oh and the "any vehicle" cover will only be valid when you are fully comprehensive in your own name on your own vehicle, and if and only if the insurer agrees to this and puts it on your policy. which they won't in order to stop people like you doing what you're talking about.

Listen. I am 38, with ten years no claims bonus and I've had a licence for 21 years. My Porsche has a Tracker and is locked up overnight in a guarded car park, and I pay well over £1000 a year.


It must be half term.
Not to mention that driving other peoples' cars under your own insurance is third party only so you're not covered if you bend it. Named drivers cannot drive others' cars under the policy. It is the policyholder only.

Yes you can get a Ferrari for £15,000. Then make sure you have banked another £15,000 for one years' maintenance!

soprano

1,611 posts

224 months

Wednesday 20th May 2009
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Soovy said:
CarbonBlackM3 said:
Yes a Ferrari....there are some older cars for as little as £15000 which is the price of a new mondeo.
Also just got a quote on a Range Rover 4.0 V8 but not particularly fast, just a nice cruiser which is insurance group 14 for £1795.00!
Also the small print on some insurance policies says that even unnamed drivers can drive a particular car if they are fully comp on another which they own but the excess with automatically go up to £1000.

Which basically means if I drive carefully, my dad may just let me drive his car, also I am not some 18 year old tt who runs around a football all day. Those of you who are real enthusiasts will know that a high performance car does not mean you thrash it around the roads, its just for the more refined drive.
Listen. I am 38, with ten years no claims bonus and I've had a licence for 21 years. My Porsche has a Tracker and is locked up overnight in a guarded car park, and I pay well over £1000 a year.




Edited by Soovy on Wednesday 20th May 11:59
yikes have you shopped around?! Thats ridiculous!

Soovy

35,829 posts

295 months

Wednesday 20th May 2009
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soprano said:
Soovy said:
CarbonBlackM3 said:
Yes a Ferrari....there are some older cars for as little as £15000 which is the price of a new mondeo.
Also just got a quote on a Range Rover 4.0 V8 but not particularly fast, just a nice cruiser which is insurance group 14 for £1795.00!
Also the small print on some insurance policies says that even unnamed drivers can drive a particular car if they are fully comp on another which they own but the excess with automatically go up to £1000.

Which basically means if I drive carefully, my dad may just let me drive his car, also I am not some 18 year old tt who runs around a football all day. Those of you who are real enthusiasts will know that a high performance car does not mean you thrash it around the roads, its just for the more refined drive.
Listen. I am 38, with ten years no claims bonus and I've had a licence for 21 years. My Porsche has a Tracker and is locked up overnight in a guarded car park, and I pay well over £1000 a year.




Edited by Soovy on Wednesday 20th May 11:59
yikes have you shopped around?! Thats ridiculous!
Not when you live where I do. Plus it's a Private Clients policy with a whole load of extras such as (and the OP will LOVE this) I can drive any car fully comprehensive.....





Edited by Soovy on Wednesday 20th May 21:04

soprano

1,611 posts

224 months

Wednesday 20th May 2009
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Soovy said:
soprano said:
Soovy said:
CarbonBlackM3 said:
Yes a Ferrari....there are some older cars for as little as £15000 which is the price of a new mondeo.
Also just got a quote on a Range Rover 4.0 V8 but not particularly fast, just a nice cruiser which is insurance group 14 for £1795.00!
Also the small print on some insurance policies says that even unnamed drivers can drive a particular car if they are fully comp on another which they own but the excess with automatically go up to £1000.

Which basically means if I drive carefully, my dad may just let me drive his car, also I am not some 18 year old tt who runs around a football all day. Those of you who are real enthusiasts will know that a high performance car does not mean you thrash it around the roads, its just for the more refined drive.
Listen. I am 38, with ten years no claims bonus and I've had a licence for 21 years. My Porsche has a Tracker and is locked up overnight in a guarded car park, and I pay well over £1000 a year.




Edited by Soovy on Wednesday 20th May 11:59
yikes have you shopped around?! Thats ridiculous!
Not when you live where I do.




Edited by Soovy on Wednesday 20th May 21:04
You must live in Helmand Province?!

Edited by soprano on Wednesday 20th May 22:08

Vixpy1

42,697 posts

288 months

Wednesday 20th May 2009
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soprano said:
Soovy said:
soprano said:
Soovy said:
CarbonBlackM3 said:
Yes a Ferrari....there are some older cars for as little as £15000 which is the price of a new mondeo.
Also just got a quote on a Range Rover 4.0 V8 but not particularly fast, just a nice cruiser which is insurance group 14 for £1795.00!
Also the small print on some insurance policies says that even unnamed drivers can drive a particular car if they are fully comp on another which they own but the excess with automatically go up to £1000.

Which basically means if I drive carefully, my dad may just let me drive his car, also I am not some 18 year old tt who runs around a football all day. Those of you who are real enthusiasts will know that a high performance car does not mean you thrash it around the roads, its just for the more refined drive.
Listen. I am 38, with ten years no claims bonus and I've had a licence for 21 years. My Porsche has a Tracker and is locked up overnight in a guarded car park, and I pay well over £1000 a year.




Edited by Soovy on Wednesday 20th May 11:59
yikes have you shopped around?! Thats ridiculous!
Not when you live where I do.




Edited by Soovy on Wednesday 20th May 21:04
You must live in Helmand Province?!

Edited by soprano on Wednesday 20th May 22:08
He lives in London, not that i can tell the difference between the 2

Soovy

35,829 posts

295 months

Wednesday 20th May 2009
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Vixpy1 said:
soprano said:
Soovy said:
soprano said:
Soovy said:
CarbonBlackM3 said:
Yes a Ferrari....there are some older cars for as little as £15000 which is the price of a new mondeo.
Also just got a quote on a Range Rover 4.0 V8 but not particularly fast, just a nice cruiser which is insurance group 14 for £1795.00!
Also the small print on some insurance policies says that even unnamed drivers can drive a particular car if they are fully comp on another which they own but the excess with automatically go up to £1000.

Which basically means if I drive carefully, my dad may just let me drive his car, also I am not some 18 year old tt who runs around a football all day. Those of you who are real enthusiasts will know that a high performance car does not mean you thrash it around the roads, its just for the more refined drive.
Listen. I am 38, with ten years no claims bonus and I've had a licence for 21 years. My Porsche has a Tracker and is locked up overnight in a guarded car park, and I pay well over £1000 a year.




Edited by Soovy on Wednesday 20th May 11:59
yikes have you shopped around?! Thats ridiculous!
Not when you live where I do.




Edited by Soovy on Wednesday 20th May 21:04
You must live in Helmand Province?!

Edited by soprano on Wednesday 20th May 22:08
He lives in London, not that i can tell the difference between the 2
There are less terrorists in Helmand.


Vixpy1

42,697 posts

288 months

Wednesday 20th May 2009
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ooooo laugh