Prototype vehicle
Discussion
Hello
I may buy a car which was a prototype for a final build car...it is by no means a production ready car, but looks completely driveable and roadworthy.
I wanted to know about the registration for such a car.
The car didn't actually go into production, but the designs were sold on to another manufacturer who have produced the car (with a different engine) etc.
Would i register the car as a replica of the production car? Or is there a different class for prototype vehicles.
I may buy a car which was a prototype for a final build car...it is by no means a production ready car, but looks completely driveable and roadworthy.
I wanted to know about the registration for such a car.
The car didn't actually go into production, but the designs were sold on to another manufacturer who have produced the car (with a different engine) etc.
Would i register the car as a replica of the production car? Or is there a different class for prototype vehicles.
The problem will be the IVA category.
Most of us would go through 'Amateur Build' and prove the status by supplying photos of the build taking place. In this case you would need to prove that someone else built it as an amateur which will be more difficult if it is the manufacturers prototype.
The current manufacturer may be persuaded to submit it as if it was one of their own.
Steve
Most of us would go through 'Amateur Build' and prove the status by supplying photos of the build taking place. In this case you would need to prove that someone else built it as an amateur which will be more difficult if it is the manufacturers prototype.
The current manufacturer may be persuaded to submit it as if it was one of their own.
Steve
Ozzie Dave said:
would have thought just had to pass SVA or suchlike
Nope, believe it or not at the car company I used to work for we had cut'n'shut prototypes on the road on trade plates without any formal inspection. There comes a point when they trust RnD departments to inspect them better than the DVLA can, plus if you're a major manufacturer you're insured to high heaven. Not sure if it would be the same for low volume companies though - I guess they'd have to go through the SVA.Of course, we might have just been bending the rules with the prototypes...
I once visited Vauxhall's Ellesmere Port plant and was picked up by an Engineer in a white astra estate mk4 with no numberplate and no tax disc. These were pre-production build cars, about 4 years old and had been kept because GM would not sanction their sale to real customers. So a batch of them was used as factory transport.
I once was involved in building switches for the 1998 renault clio launch and I understand they built 1000 pre-production cars and scrapped them all.
I once was involved in building switches for the 1998 renault clio launch and I understand they built 1000 pre-production cars and scrapped them all.
K12AN said:
Hello
I may buy a car which was a prototype for a final build car...it is by no means a production ready car, but looks completely driveable and roadworthy.
I wanted to know about the registration for such a car.
The car didn't actually go into production, but the designs were sold on to another manufacturer who have produced the car (with a different engine) etc.
Would i register the car as a replica of the production car? Or is there a different class for prototype vehicles.
I think i may have been lookign at same car, looks a bargain on paper doesnt it. I just worry if stuff goes wrong.I may buy a car which was a prototype for a final build car...it is by no means a production ready car, but looks completely driveable and roadworthy.
I wanted to know about the registration for such a car.
The car didn't actually go into production, but the designs were sold on to another manufacturer who have produced the car (with a different engine) etc.
Would i register the car as a replica of the production car? Or is there a different class for prototype vehicles.
I think I may be able to submit it as a car built from a significant portion of original parts...(somthing like that).
I did a search on www.askmid.com
and there is a Farboud GTS car registered in 2004.
Is this OK?
I did a search on www.askmid.com
and there is a Farboud GTS car registered in 2004.
Is this OK?
K12AN said:
The thing is, its not actually a Kit car (is it?).
There is not kit available for it as such.
What are the rules with replica cars?
I have seen some replica lambos, ferraris etc...what happens there then?
replica's are no different to any other kit, because they are still kits.There is not kit available for it as such.
What are the rules with replica cars?
I have seen some replica lambos, ferraris etc...what happens there then?
well ok some are rebodies, but they still aren't what you'd have there
I think substantial strip and rebuild with photos would be needed, only thing I can think of.
How I see it:
Kit car/ replica car/ hot rod/ scratch built, it doesn't matter, the car has no form of type aproval and as such will require an IVA test in order to obtain a V5 registration document/Log Book, and a registration number.
The car is advertised as a "Farboud". then you should be able to register it as such.
As the car has been professionally built it will need to be tested as a "Low volume" vehicle. the regs are pretty much the same as an amature built car other than you will have to pass a cat test, if the car is supposedly a rival to an Enzo then this should not be a problem. The engine is probably post cats anyway, so you have no choice there.
If you really do want to register it as an amature built car (God knows why) then you will have to remove and reinstall the engine, transmission and all the steering components and then photograph yourself putting it back together again, all in all a week should be more than enough time to do this.....You'll still have to pass a cat test though if the engine is newer than 1992....Or is it 1995.....Whatever!!
Good luck, and it doesn't look expensive either.
P.S. An amature IVA test costs £450. A low volume IVA test costs £199 and the test would be exactly the same for this car.
Kit car/ replica car/ hot rod/ scratch built, it doesn't matter, the car has no form of type aproval and as such will require an IVA test in order to obtain a V5 registration document/Log Book, and a registration number.
The car is advertised as a "Farboud". then you should be able to register it as such.
As the car has been professionally built it will need to be tested as a "Low volume" vehicle. the regs are pretty much the same as an amature built car other than you will have to pass a cat test, if the car is supposedly a rival to an Enzo then this should not be a problem. The engine is probably post cats anyway, so you have no choice there.
If you really do want to register it as an amature built car (God knows why) then you will have to remove and reinstall the engine, transmission and all the steering components and then photograph yourself putting it back together again, all in all a week should be more than enough time to do this.....You'll still have to pass a cat test though if the engine is newer than 1992....Or is it 1995.....Whatever!!
Good luck, and it doesn't look expensive either.
P.S. An amature IVA test costs £450. A low volume IVA test costs £199 and the test would be exactly the same for this car.
Edited by Dave Dax builder on Thursday 21st May 22:41
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