bonkers level of buying a TVR?
bonkers level of buying a TVR?
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del_monte

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5 posts

209 months

Wednesday 27th May 2009
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- ok - I need to get a handle on roughly how bonkers it is to buy a TVR ;-)

..my options at this point are:
1) spend ~15K on a Cerbera + xK / year on insurance (6 points!) + maintenance
2) buy an RX8 from a friends wife- should be reliable, look nice, but a bit thirsty
3) stick with my dying vw polo for a little longer...- approx cost = zero

hmm-

I would need to commute about 20 mins each way to work, but generally not do that many miles

1) would be ggrrreat, and would fit my current mid-life-crisis well ;-) ....have almost decided on 2) as even that though it isn't really very sensible it looks very sane compared with option 1).

so how bonkers *is* 1) ?? opinions appreciated!

Oli.

TVR Dan

281 posts

217 months

Wednesday 27th May 2009
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Hello Oli!

I would get yourself a Cerb! You won't even look back!

1) If you look around and buy the right one then Cerb's are pretty reliable (ask in cerb forum for pitfalls or do a search)

2) Maintain it well and get it serviced as it should and it should be fine!

3) ENJOY!!!

TVR's are amazing head turners and amazing car's and also you join a very active group of TVR Fans.

Only problem is that it can be quite expensive on insurance depending age, point's, bans etc...
But if you search on here there are a few good insurance firms for TVR's.

other problem is that you only drive it a short distance to work! Your going to have to find a way to drag yourself out of it and stop grinning before you enter work

biggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrin

Good Luck!

Dan

SimonKD

1,387 posts

261 months

Wednesday 27th May 2009
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Hi Oli

As far as I can see there's no decision to make. It has to be option 1.

A few pointers then

Don't expect to run a Cerbera on a shoestring, they do have a list of unusual consumables which include:

Clutch
Clutch Master & Slave Cylinders
Alternator
Starter Motor
Brake discs

To name but a few.

Some owners believe that it's best to have an annual emergency fund for a Cerb amounting to aroud £3K+ in order to keep a Cerbera at it's best. This is excluding servicing, insurance, tax, petrol, etc. Service history is important too as Cerbs don't take kindly to neglect.
Get any potential purchase checked over first by someone who knows what to look for. Chassis rot on Cerbera outriggers can be a big problem.
Get yourself to a TVR meet and have a chat with current owners, they can be a wealth of information.
Many of the Cerbs in existance are "Known" cars over on the Cerbera forum, you can ask about any potential purchase over on there.
Do your homework and as long as you can come to terms with the sums of money which can be involved in keeping a Cerb on the road and 100% healthy I guarantee you'll not be disappointed, bonkers or not.

Regards
Simon

Byker28i

91,751 posts

247 months

Wednesday 27th May 2009
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del_monte said:
...I would need to commute about 20 mins each way to work
I'd allow a bit longer if you get a Cerbera. Sometimes it takes me an hour to pick up some milk. "I'll just go the long way around love to warm the car up properly..." biggrin

That's some good advice above. I've been really lucky with mine having found a good, well maintained car.

Other points to note:
Cerbera forum are really helpful.
TVR owners are the best of any owners club/owners I've ever been part of. Really helpful and friendly and brilliant events.
Plenty of spares and independents available so looking after the car is no problem.

rigga

8,806 posts

231 months

Wednesday 27th May 2009
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The commute would be a problem to my mind,although you will prob find that the journey time may take longer because your enjoying it.... id say it WILL have to be longer in order for the engine to warm up properly,id consider keeping the snotter for the commute,and the cerb for decent evening and weekend jaunts,all the other above advice i agree with....

del_monte

Original Poster:

5 posts

209 months

Wednesday 27th May 2009
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baaa- you're not making this any easier ;-) - why couldn't you have just said- "it's a stupid idea- go buy something else" - and I could have gone about my business in peace!

thanks all-
Oli

Malx

871 posts

234 months

Wednesday 27th May 2009
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Hey, i think you have already made the choice deep down.

They are awesome cars and you'll not regret buying one until something bad happens. Once fixed all will be forgiven. Repeat.

As others have said, get any cars you are looking at checked by someone who knows what they are talking about. Make sure you can afford to spend the money on it and make sure that you can get to work another way when it decides not to start biggrin

From my personal experience the £3k budget per year is no where near enough. It's had me on the verge of tears twice in the last fortnight however, i will not sell it.

Get one, whats the worst that can happen?

peteA

2,761 posts

264 months

Wednesday 27th May 2009
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rigga said:
The commute would be a problem to my mind,although you will prob find that the journey time may take longer because your enjoying it.... id say it WILL have to be longer in order for the engine to warm up properly,id consider keeping the snotter for the commute,and the cerb for decent evening and weekend jaunts,all the other above advice i agree with....
+1

Chris71

21,549 posts

272 months

Wednesday 27th May 2009
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TVR Moneypit said:
Buy a Cerb but keep the old Polo for winter. I should imagine that having a two car policy would only cost you about £100 extra a year.
yes

Plus you'll never transport a flatpack wardrobe in a Cerb.

...possibly not in a Polo either, but subsitute for £1k's worth of secondhand Mondeo and you're well away.

Not a Cerb owner admittedly, but I long since gave up trying to run one car for everything. In my case - being young-ish and needing to make full use of specialist/classic insurance policies - it actually works out significantly cheaper to run two cars than one credible all-rounder.

Tildo430

67 posts

242 months

Wednesday 27th May 2009
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If you factor in depreciation into the costs of ownership it may balance the decision a little. The RX8 will keep dropping in value - about 50% every 3 years i would imagine, where as a £15k cerb won't.

That said - the cerb will almost certainly cost more however you stack it up.

optimax sniffer

1,817 posts

245 months

Wednesday 27th May 2009
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TVR Moneypit said:
Option 4. Buy a Cerb but keep the old Polo for winter.
Thats the option I went with, it's been working well for 3 years now....



RacerMDR

5,582 posts

240 months

Wednesday 27th May 2009
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i bought a Griff500 on Monday - on a total WHIM. I was looking for a Porsche.........Bonkers.......but hey - what can you do!

grahamw48

9,944 posts

268 months

Wednesday 27th May 2009
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Get a TVR...ANY !

RX8...vomit ...pig ugly hairdresser's car.

+ Keep the Polo.

del_monte

Original Poster:

5 posts

209 months

Thursday 28th May 2009
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ok - I get it - I see passion! ...now have any of you got any money left, or is it all spent on part ;-)

Malx

871 posts

234 months

Thursday 28th May 2009
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del_monte said:
ok - I get it - I see passion! ...now have any of you got any money left, or is it all spent on part ;-)
I find the money somehow. Mostly i go without the necessities in life such as food, electricity, heating........

QuiteQuietCerb

995 posts

253 months

Thursday 28th May 2009
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bear in mind that you will need more rebiults for the rotary than the AJP

CerbitonFlyer

155 posts

229 months

Thursday 28th May 2009
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Hi Oli,

That's interesting cos I am currently faced with EXACTLY the same dilema! The only slight twist is mine is Cerb v RX8 v current Audi A4 shed.

When you look at the complete cost of ownership I reckon the Cerb is a good choice. There's no doubt it will depreciate a lot less than an RX8, it's no more thirsty (probably better than an RX8), plus road tax is £200 a year cheaper! OK maintenance will be more but on balance I don't reckon there is much in it.

The RX8 is a good looking car but it has nothing like the appeal and exclusivity of a Cerb. smile

Byker28i

91,751 posts

247 months

Thursday 28th May 2009
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CerbitonFlyer said:
The RX8 is a good looking car...
It takes all sorts I suppose. Didn't think it that attractive myself.

del_monte

Original Poster:

5 posts

209 months

Thursday 28th May 2009
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CerbitonFlyer said:
Hi Oli,

When you look at the complete cost of ownership I reckon the Cerb is a good choice. There's no doubt it will depreciate a lot less than an RX8, it's no more thirsty (probably better than an RX8), plus road tax is £200 a year cheaper! OK maintenance will be more but on balance I don't reckon there is much in it.
..this *can't* be any where near right!
- I'd be looking at spending ~7K on a reasonable RX8, 15K on a (hopefully!) reasonable TVR-
to be honest though I never really thought about resale value- I kind of like running on the assumption that money spent is money spent....then again have never spent more than 3K on a car....

grahamw48

9,944 posts

268 months

Friday 29th May 2009
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Byker28i said:
CerbitonFlyer said:
The RX8 is a good looking car...
It takes all sorts I suppose. Didn't think it that attractive myself.


How can anyone mention the RX8 jap crap fugly in the same sentence as a Cerb !

aaaaaaaaaah !!!