pay a premium for E36 M3 gt?

[BigRichi]

Hi Folks.
Me n the girlfriend were picking up her new car from a garage yesterday and the guy was just taking delivery of the above car?

I have always fancied an e36 M3 and with the prices coming into my price range recently have been keeping an eye on the classifieds.

the salesman was saying this is a limited edition and is asking approx £10K for the car.
it does seem to be in really good condition and has 69k miles on it with a fsh.
any info on these models greatly appreciated
thanks

its actually and M3 GT2 if it makes a difference

Edited by BigRichi on Friday 29th May 13:36

[rassi]

The GT is "more special" but not to the tune of paying 4-6K over the odds of a regular E36 M3 (3.0). The mileage is low, but IMHO that is way over-priced.

[BigRichi]

sorry,should have said its a GT2

[SJobson]

The GT2 is not as much of a departure from the Evo as the GT was from the original 3.0. Unless you find a particular fanboy or someone who really has to have one in Imola red, surely the GT2 is not worth a premium?

The GT always seemed to be undervalued but I haven't looked at prices for a few years. I guess the green paintwork was a bit offputting...

[asbo]

There is no such thing as a "GT2". The correct name for the car is 'M3 Imola Individual'. It represents nothing more than a unique colour (for the E36, which incidentally I don't think it suits), a half leather interior and different front/rear spoilers (of which the rear was a mimic of that fixed to the back of the original GT). Otherwise it is all but identical to a standard E36 M3 Evo.

To ask £10k for it is ludicrous.

The puka GT on the other hand was a homologation special and featured different cams to the standard 3.0 engine as well as polished inlet manifolds. This allowed it to produce it's greater power (298 bhp IIRC) compared with the standard 3.0's 286 bhp. On top of that the car featured chassis upgrades as well as a proper adjustable front splitter. These cars, only produced in LHD* are the real deal and are now worth a lot of money.

Save yourself a lot of cash and buy a nice 'standard' Evo.

*The RHD 'GT'S' are widely regarded to differ slightly from the LHD versions and indeed some reports suggest that the official UK name for them was 'GT Individual'. Ergo, they do not compare evenly to the proper LHD only GT.

[BigRichi]

superb.....thanks for all the good info folks

[SJobson]

Asbo, what's the difference between a LHD and RHD 3.0 GT then? IIRC the RHD version had the engine upgrade, chassis changes, forged alloys and aluminium door skins etc, so it seemed pretty thorough.

[French]

asbo said:

Save yourself a lot of cash and buy a nice 'standard' Evo

Sage advice here, "Save yourself a lot of cash"

[Steven_RW]

I sold my lovely condition e46 m3 54 plate on new 19's new tyres and full bmwsh for £12.4k. TO ask for for only 2k less for an old e36, imo is a joke. Cheers

RW

[VanosLoco]

SJobson said:

Asbo, what's the difference between a LHD and RHD 3.0 GT then? IIRC the RHD version had the engine upgrade, chassis changes, forged alloys and aluminium door skins etc, so it seemed pretty thorough.

I doubt it had the same engine modifications, as far as I know the RHD GT Individuals 'only' had 286 BHP and instead of carbon fibre interiour, they had wood.

Does somebody here know any LHD GT or GT2 (Imola Individual) for sale? I heard that there is one LHD GT2 in the UK?

[VanosLoco]

http://www.qv500.com/indexbmw.php

[BigRichi]

Steven_RW said:

I sold my lovely condition e46 m3 54 plate on new 19's new tyres and full bmwsh for £12.4k. TO ask for for only 2k less for an old e36, imo is a joke. Cheers

RW

what i was thinking but wasnt sure how rare/special it was.

here's the car in question

http://www.jamesglen.co.uk/730/used-cars.htm

[oola]

BigRichi said:

Steven_RW said:

I sold my lovely condition e46 m3 54 plate on new 19's new tyres and full bmwsh for £12.4k. TO ask for for only 2k less for an old e36, imo is a joke. Cheers

RW

what i was thinking but wasnt sure how rare/special it was.

here's the car in question

http://www.jamesglen.co.uk/730/used-cars.htm

Well they are quite rare but the only special thing about them is that they were some of the last E36 M3's off the production line. This one looks like a good example with low miles, so like any E36 M3, there you can expect to pay a premium for such cars and not just the fact that its a special edition. I've very good low mileage seen E36 M3's at the £7k - £8k mark but I'm I don't think this edition is worth £2k - £3k over that. There were very few enhancements to the car to justify the price differnce and it had no performance mods or racing heritage to back it up.

I would however spend £10k on a genuine GT with low miles and in excellent condition. When I say genuine GT, I mean the LHD version and not the UK version with wood trim

My old beasty ...

[VanosLoco]

oola said:

I would however spend £10k on a genuine GT with low miles and in excellent condition. When I say genuine GT, I mean the LHD version and not the UK version with wood trim

That's true, but do you know of any real GT for sale in the UK?

[asbo]

French said:

asbo said:

Save yourself a lot of cash and buy a nice 'standard' Evo

Sage advice here, "Save yourself a lot of cash"

You're enjoying this aren't you?

[9mm]

asbo said:

There is no such thing as a "GT2". The correct name for the car is 'M3 Imola Individual'. It represents nothing more than a unique colour (for the E36, which incidentally I don't think it suits), a half leather interior and different front/rear spoilers (of which the rear was a mimic of that fixed to the back of the original GT). Otherwise it is all but identical to a standard E36 M3 Evo.

To ask £10k for it is ludicrous.

The puka GT on the other hand was a homologation special and featured different cams to the standard 3.0 engine as well as polished inlet manifolds. This allowed it to produce it's greater power (298 bhp IIRC) compared with the standard 3.0's 286 bhp. On top of that the car featured chassis upgrades as well as a proper adjustable front splitter. These cars, only produced in LHD* are the real deal and are now worth a lot of money.

Save yourself a lot of cash and buy a nice 'standard' Evo.

*The RHD 'GT'S' are widely regarded to differ slightly from the LHD versions and indeed some reports suggest that the official UK name for them was 'GT Individual'. Ergo, they do not compare evenly to the proper LHD only GT.

The GT tag only really applies to the 3.0 models. The GT2 tag applied to parts bin special EVO runout models.

There were rhd E36 M3 GT models - 50 I believe - all in green with green leather/alcantara seats, front splitter, blueprinted engine, alloy doors and different rear spoiler. I know this because I owned one. I do believe that the lhd versions did indeed differ in some respects from their rhd cousins.

[VanosLoco]

9mm said:

The GT tag only really applies to the 3.0 models. The GT2 tag applied to parts bin special EVO runout models.

There were rhd E36 M3 GT models - 50 I believe - all in green with green leather/alcantara seats, front splitter, blueprinted engine, alloy doors and different rear spoiler. I know this because I owned one. I do believe that the lhd versions did indeed differ in some respects from their rhd cousins.

I also thought the RHD GT's didn't have the engine upgrades like camshaft, vanos timing and ECU changes.

[oola]

VanosLoco said:

oola said:

I would however spend £10k on a genuine GT with low miles and in excellent condition. When I say genuine GT, I mean the LHD version and not the UK version with wood trim

That's true, but do you know of any real GT for sale in the UK?

I'm afaid I don't, mine was sold 2 years ago now, hope she's still going strong. Mine was originally from Bergamo nr Milan although I know a few other LHD models are in the UK, they are still pretty rare.

[oola]

VanosLoco said:

9mm said:

The GT tag only really applies to the 3.0 models. The GT2 tag applied to parts bin special EVO runout models.

There were rhd E36 M3 GT models - 50 I believe - all in green with green leather/alcantara seats, front splitter, blueprinted engine, alloy doors and different rear spoiler. I know this because I owned one. I do believe that the lhd versions did indeed differ in some respects from their rhd cousins.

I also thought the RHD GT's didn't have the engine upgrades like camshaft, vanos timing and ECU changes.

This is what I was also told. From what I remember, the UK version was an afterthought as they were not part of the original production run, although I'm sure someone will be here to correct me if thats wrong.

Check out the m3gtregister for more info and available cars. This is the info on my old car for instance.
http://www.m3gtregister.com/356/gt142-356.html

[asbo]

9mm said:

asbo said:

There is no such thing as a "GT2". The correct name for the car is 'M3 Imola Individual'. It represents nothing more than a unique colour (for the E36, which incidentally I don't think it suits), a half leather interior and different front/rear spoilers (of which the rear was a mimic of that fixed to the back of the original GT). Otherwise it is all but identical to a standard E36 M3 Evo.

To ask £10k for it is ludicrous.

The puka GT on the other hand was a homologation special and featured different cams to the standard 3.0 engine as well as polished inlet manifolds. This allowed it to produce it's greater power (298 bhp IIRC) compared with the standard 3.0's 286 bhp. On top of that the car featured chassis upgrades as well as a proper adjustable front splitter. These cars, only produced in LHD* are the real deal and are now worth a lot of money.

Save yourself a lot of cash and buy a nice 'standard' Evo.

*The RHD 'GT'S' are widely regarded to differ slightly from the LHD versions and indeed some reports suggest that the official UK name for them was 'GT Individual'. Ergo, they do not compare evenly to the proper LHD only GT.

The GT tag only really applies to the 3.0 models. The GT2 tag applied to parts bin special EVO runout models.

There were rhd E36 M3 GT models - 50 I believe - all in green with green leather/alcantara seats, front splitter, blueprinted engine, alloy doors and different rear spoiler. I know this because I owned one. I do believe that the lhd versions did indeed differ in some respects from their rhd cousins.

Which is exactly what I said.

Congrats. Awesome car.