Koi Carp Value!
Discussion
Hello chaps.
Say if you somehow ended up with a load of circa 40cm long koi carp of unknown variety (i think they come in loads of different sorts(??))... how would you possibly go about:
a) valuing them
b) selling them
I am not saying i would if i ended up with them but i *think* even fairly average ones are in 3 figures (??) so you know it could possibly be worth looking at...!
Say if you somehow ended up with a load of circa 40cm long koi carp of unknown variety (i think they come in loads of different sorts(??))... how would you possibly go about:
a) valuing them
b) selling them
I am not saying i would if i ended up with them but i *think* even fairly average ones are in 3 figures (??) so you know it could possibly be worth looking at...!
I think it goes off the weight, however the people who want to buy them are only after good lucking, rare breeds. (serious buyers) These are the sort of nutters who go to Japan to pick out Koi and have them flown back over here.
So it is more of a case of finding a rich person who has just dug a pond with a JCB in their garden, that wants to stock it with big fish. From my experience
So it is more of a case of finding a rich person who has just dug a pond with a JCB in their garden, that wants to stock it with big fish. From my experience
My Dad keeps Koi and is a member of the Koi Society (http://www.bkks.co.uk/)
It is true that the serious keepers/owners will want the bloodline and spend huge amounts shipping Koi from Japan. They are also very select in which Koi businesses to buy from...
I am guessing they would be suspicious of a 'new boy' selling off a number of large Koi as their is a large black market for stolen Koi.
I would approach the Society first and then maybe find a specialist business who may be able to give you a price for the group.
Where abouts are the Koi based.....
Also, the price is based on the quality and markings of the fish as well as the size. Dad has a 24lb Showa Sanshoku Koi in his collection which is worth a fraction of a good one due to the markings being 'wrong'.....
HTH
Kev
^that's very useful. i'll not mention the area for now because i haven't secured the property as yet... but i'll have a look into this and maybe be in charge.
i get the distinct impression that they've grown whilst in the pond and are just healthy 'normal' ones (obviously i spose or else they wouldn't leave them!).
it might be worth keeping some but i personally think there are a few too many.
thanks for the site again.
i get the distinct impression that they've grown whilst in the pond and are just healthy 'normal' ones (obviously i spose or else they wouldn't leave them!).
it might be worth keeping some but i personally think there are a few too many.
thanks for the site again.
briSk said:
Hello chaps.
Say if you somehow ended up with a load of circa 40cm long koi carp of unknown variety (i think they come in loads of different sorts(??))... how would you possibly go about:
a) valuing them
b) selling them
I am not saying i would if i ended up with them but i *think* even fairly average ones are in 3 figures (??) so you know it could possibly be worth looking at...!
They are koi, not koi carp. Koi is the Japanese word for carp, so you are effectively saying "carp carp".Say if you somehow ended up with a load of circa 40cm long koi carp of unknown variety (i think they come in loads of different sorts(??))... how would you possibly go about:
a) valuing them
b) selling them
I am not saying i would if i ended up with them but i *think* even fairly average ones are in 3 figures (??) so you know it could possibly be worth looking at...!
they sell them on ebay, equivalent stores in the uk too http://stores.shop.ebay.com/kimmy-Koi-Art__W0QQ_ar... not a lot of value really
WTD said:
they sell them on ebay, equivalent stores in the uk too http://stores.shop.ebay.com/kimmy-Koi-Art__W0QQ_ar... not a lot of value really
i guess you're right.. if ones that they claim are japanese are only worth £20... and i wouldn't be able to prove anything.still there might be a couple of hundred quids worth. of koi. or carp.
When I worked at Center Parcs, they used to have a deal with a local Garden Centre (I imagine they still do) to keep Koi. They used to get them in at about 4 inches long and used to move them into a bigger pond each time they got bigger.
One of the bar managers got sacked for hooking the big ones out after hours, and selling them. They realised something fishy
was going on when he tried to recruit one of the grounds keepers into it.
He did it often enough over a couple of years and got enough money to get a decent motor.
One of the bar managers got sacked for hooking the big ones out after hours, and selling them. They realised something fishy
was going on when he tried to recruit one of the grounds keepers into it.He did it often enough over a couple of years and got enough money to get a decent motor.
If you're a fanatic pond keeper then its all about bloodlines (bit like cat/dog pedigrees), and then how good they are individually and size.
If not, then its more buyer dictates price - size and pattern has a lot to do with it e.g. bigger fish generally cost more (as they take time and effort to get that big) plus there are more popular colours/types - e.g. a 60cm goshki would be quite rare vs. a 60cm kohaku of which theres loads...
All depends really, don't expect silly money for them as you have no proof as to bloodlines (e.g. Jap, Israli, UK), and aren't a breeder with a QT facility so no real evidence of health, though if the colours are nice and bright and definition between colours is very sharp then they could be worth a couple of quid.
I'd say for someones pond koi of unknown origin, if they are nice, then 12" for £50, 18" for £50-150, >18" £100+ unless you get someone who finds one they like and is happy to pay over the odds for it.
Take a pic of one or two and I could hazard a guess.
Dave
If not, then its more buyer dictates price - size and pattern has a lot to do with it e.g. bigger fish generally cost more (as they take time and effort to get that big) plus there are more popular colours/types - e.g. a 60cm goshki would be quite rare vs. a 60cm kohaku of which theres loads...
All depends really, don't expect silly money for them as you have no proof as to bloodlines (e.g. Jap, Israli, UK), and aren't a breeder with a QT facility so no real evidence of health, though if the colours are nice and bright and definition between colours is very sharp then they could be worth a couple of quid.
I'd say for someones pond koi of unknown origin, if they are nice, then 12" for £50, 18" for £50-150, >18" £100+ unless you get someone who finds one they like and is happy to pay over the odds for it.
Take a pic of one or two and I could hazard a guess.
Dave
You have to be careful selling established Koi from ponds and indeed buying them. My dad bought a about 6 "jumbos" from a liquidator of an aquatic place about 10 years ago, at retail some had been like £3k each, (they were huge!). All of them were dead within 6 months, along with one of his existing Koi. Very susceptible to damage in transit the big ones, these had been raised in a place with chemical style filters, my dad's pond was naturally filtered, I think they just got or brought in an infection and snuffed it!!
Any new ones he buys now, he segregates for a few months in a different pond!
Any new ones he buys now, he segregates for a few months in a different pond!
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