How do we punish a 13-year old who just won't listen?
How do we punish a 13-year old who just won't listen?
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Dixie68

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3,091 posts

208 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2009
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Probably the wrong area to post...

Background: my girlfriend has a 13-year old son who is acting up in a big way. He is currently on bail for fighting, skives off school, shouts and swears at her and throws major tantrums, smokes, takes 3 hours to get home from school which is ten minutes away and totally ignores her. It now looks like she will have to give up her job and go on benefits so she can walk with him to school and pick him up after because he just can't be trusted.

How can she punish him? She doesn't want to go on benefits but her job hours mean that there would be times when he would be responsible for getting himself home etc and he has clearly shown that he won't do that. The worry about it all is making her sick.

I've suggested totally emptying his room of everything except the bed, and if he's 2 hours late for his dinner sending him to bed without it. But nothing seems to work. He is the typical chav and yet his mum isn't the typical chav-mum.

Any sensible suggestions would be gratefully received, as at this rate he is going to end up in one of Her Majesty's institutions which would devestate his mum

SkinnyBoy

4,635 posts

279 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2009
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knob him, at least he'll have something to cry about then

Dupont666

22,454 posts

213 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2009
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send him to boot camp.... nuff said

okgo

41,320 posts

219 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2009
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Take him somewhere in the middle of the night and live him there.

Technonotice

4,250 posts

212 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2009
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give the kid a good slap. I certainly did what I was told after getting a thick ear.

blindswelledrat

25,257 posts

253 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2009
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Have you tried any of the follwing:

1)Giving him a good hiding?
2)Talking to him like an adult?
3)Kicking him out

In no particular order.
I dont envy you. I will be so intolerant when the kids get to that age.

Justayellowbadge

37,057 posts

263 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2009
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One wonders why this is being asked now.

Sorry, but she's failed for the last 13 years if it got to this state.

davemac250

4,499 posts

226 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2009
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Before the standard PH replies...........

Try contacting the local young offenders institution. Many will offer talks to errant youths and show them the harsh facts about where they are heading.

Even better if you are near Feltham and can get to talk to people there. It isn't pleasant and the fact that this could be his home for a few years will hopefully shock him into line.


davemac250

4,499 posts

226 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2009
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Type too slow.............

V8mate

45,899 posts

210 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2009
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13 years old?

It's too late. He has carved himself a mentality which will stay with him forever, IMO.

chrisxr2

1,127 posts

215 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2009
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Put him into care, that'll teach him. Yes i am serious.

Mc lovin

5,588 posts

242 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2009
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blindswelledrat said:
Have you tried any of the follwing:

1)Giving him a good hiding?
2)Talking to him like an adult?
3)Kicking him out

In no particular order.
I dont envy you. I will be so intolerant when the kids get to that age.
My thoughts exactly, to all of the above!

seopher

301 posts

203 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2009
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Concede defeat and drown him in the canal, then blame it on his vagrant lifestyle. Start trying for another child or adopt. Deny his existence to everyone.

Corpulent Tosser

5,468 posts

266 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2009
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Both my kids rebelled a bit at that age, and for quite a few years after, but they had been brought up to respect their parents, actually I know my son actually feared me at one time which I did not like, but if they were grounded for bad behavour they knew we meant it and they had to stay in, if a privilege was taken away they didn't like it but they got on with it.

As for your gf's kid sounds to me like the basic respect has not been instilled and she is in for a rough ride, not blaming her, particularly if she has been bringing him up of her own and working, but if he has been allowed to get away with st up to now it will be even harder to break the habit.

adycav

7,615 posts

238 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2009
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Forget trying to 'punish' him - all you will do is make him even more pissed off and non-compliant.

Something will be contributing to this behaviour. Is the behavioural deterioration recent? Has his peer group changed? Any suspicions concerning alcohol/substance misuse? Are there any issues with siblings?

How is his behaviour at school? What is he like with his friends' parents, or elsewhere outside of the home (e.g. Grandparents etc.)?

I suggest that you identify something that he enjoys - music, sport, clothes - whatever. Then implement some kind of simple, easy to understand points/reward system. For example each time he arrives home when he should/spends an evening with you without being abusive/carries out household chores etc give him a point. When he gets to ten points take him to a football match/buy him a new baseball cap/CD etc. You get the idea.

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

219 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2009
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bribe the bigger kids at school to kit the living st out of him repeatedly

blindswelledrat

25,257 posts

253 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2009
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Oh, and a piece of advice about advice.
Do not, under any circumstances, listen to advce from anyone who says things like "'nuff said" or "End of"
THey are generally a little bit thick and you probably know better than them smile

Justayellowbadge

37,057 posts

263 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2009
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SystemParanoia said:
bribe the bigger kids at school to kit the living st out of him repeatedly
Take this piece of equipment. And this. And this. Don't forget the bergen.

That'll learn him.

MaxAndRuby

6,792 posts

253 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2009
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SkinnyBoy said:
knob him, at least he'll have something to cry about then
rofl

Murray993

1,515 posts

254 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2009
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Sounds like you are already doing the right things. Beating him wont work, you have to lay down rules and be consistant. Maybe your other half has to give up work for a bit and sort him out.

Take him to a really terrible place (lets say Leeds) and explain his own actions will dictate how his life turns out. Mabe a holiday will help as people including teenagers tend to relax more and listen. When your back be firm and consistant. It wont happen over night but it will make a difference.