No Respect - Why?
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tonyrec

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3,984 posts

276 months

Tuesday 9th December 2003
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Why do motorists (some anyway), have no respect for a marked Trafpol car?

We can be driving along the A406 at 40mph in a 40 limit approaching a Speed Camera. Someone, will drive past us and then have the ordasity to slow down to 40 for the camera and then speed up again.

They then wonder why we arent being pleasant with them and report them for every offence we can find.

Why do they do this?

Podie

46,647 posts

296 months

Tuesday 9th December 2003
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Stupidity...? Ignorance...? The demise of natural selection due to modern medicine..?

Think it's just one of life's unanswered questions mate..

toad_oftoadhall

936 posts

272 months

Tuesday 9th December 2003
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tonyrec said:
Why do motorists (some anyway), have no respect for a marked Trafpol car?

We can be driving along the A406 at 40mph in a 40 limit approaching a Speed Camera. Someone, will drive past us and then have the ordasity to slow down to 40 for the camera and then speed up again.



Maybe they're paying you great respect by acknowledging that you will only do them if you take the p£ss?

>> Edited by toad_oftoadhall on Tuesday 9th December 08:47

streaky

19,311 posts

270 months

Tuesday 9th December 2003
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IMHO, it is likely that what (little) 'respect' motorists have for the application of traffic laws is now reserved for the scameras - as these are seen as the tyrany of the road. In days of yore, TrafPol used to occupy a respected position as they were the ones enforcing the law - with sympathy in many instances. Sadly symptomatic of the rise of the machine and a possible case of Deus intra machina - Streaky

SpudGunner

472 posts

280 months

Tuesday 9th December 2003
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Streaky is right, people do unfortunately associate speed cameras with traffic police even though they are 2 totally different things.

One fires off fixed penalty notices indiscriminately to all and sundry without rhyme or reason for very minor offences, and then there are the speed cameras....

oops

I personally would never dare to overtake a traf pol car especially if it was driving at the speed limit, that surely is foolhardy and asking for trouble. It does make me laugh when trafpols are driving at 70 on the motorway the chaos and queues that build up as people try to pluck up the courage to overtake you!

gh0st

4,693 posts

279 months

Tuesday 9th December 2003
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A while ago I had some twat in a panda car actually cross over into my lane as I was overtaking him at 70 in a 70 dual nsl while he was doing 65.

I know the tolorance of my speedo becauase I have checked it against a GPS device which I am assured is accurate to .25 of a MPH.

He then matched me up to 70 and then came in front and touched his brakes moved over and back again.

When he pulled off the sliproad he looked at me and waggled the finger... I think I came across "the twat in every organisation" that day. Didnt really help with my feelings of motorists - police relations when I am doing nothing but driving 100% legally and get penalised for it....


Disclaimer - by "some twat" I do not mean the entire police force - I do in fact mean a "twat" who was a police officer as in individual. This disclaimer takes away and responsibility for all Bib on this forum leaving because I have an opinion that one of them in this instance was a twat. I do not hold this opinion of all police officers but I thought I had better make this clear in case I get accused of BiB bashing.

jwo

986 posts

270 months

Tuesday 9th December 2003
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I presume it is because they are either blind to trafpol or just plain thick!

It is rather taking the p$ss though - must be very annoying - don't blame you taking them to task.

All police know that motorists break the speed limits, but to do so so blatantly is rather foolhardy!

I did come across one particularly dangerous incident concerning a biker trafpol on the M20 in kent last year. Everyone waqs sat behind the bike at about 80mph, he kept turning around and gesticulating with his hand for people to back off/slow down (not really sure as we were a couple of cars back in lane 1).

This continued for about 5 miles, with the officer, IMHO, behaving in a dangerous way (most dangerous to himself). Consequently a phone call was made to the Kent Constabulary (wife was driving). Not sure if it was the right think to do but I was shocked at the behaviour of the officer.

tuscan_thunder

1,763 posts

267 months

Tuesday 9th December 2003
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this could be a thread about the lack of respect, authority and control in society as a whole.

example, some little t*sser in the central belt of scotland has been on a wee crime spree with his mates. they basically held the village ransom and the police were powerless. so now they've banned him from three regions. oh great, so now he just goes on the rampage elsewhere.

controversial point on here..maybe a good flogging would do the trick? this MAY instill some respect/fear into the little ginks (scottish word for a mink/t*sser/etc) and MAY go some way to solving some of the problems the police face- ie. abuse (both verbal and physical), lack of respect etc. obv. i'm not advocating a battering, but perhaps a quick back of the hand? controversial point off..

any views?

puggit

49,388 posts

269 months

Tuesday 9th December 2003
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Book 'em Tony!

chief-0369

1,195 posts

273 months

Tuesday 9th December 2003
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tuscan_thunder said:

i'm not advocating a battering,


why not?

thats all scrotes understand and deserve

deltaf

6,806 posts

274 months

Tuesday 9th December 2003
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You think thats disrepectful???

Take a look at Ghost Rider...... overtakes a police car, two cops inside, gets up off the seat and tuns around sitting backwards.
Then gives em a double birdie, twice, before getting back on the right way round and pissing off big time on the back wheel! Thats disrepectful!
I dont see the problem with what youre saying TC.

gshughes

1,323 posts

276 months

Tuesday 9th December 2003
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I've actually been a passenger in a car (friend of a friend) which overtook a police car while exceeding the speed limit, and was then rather unsuprisingly pulled. This was about 10 years ago, and it wasn't a lack of respect, just stupidity. He got the speed limit wrong, and thought it was a 40, when it was in fact a 30. Was let off with a caution, and merciless slagging from all his mates.

outlaw

1,893 posts

287 months

Tuesday 9th December 2003
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deltaf said:
You think thats disrepectful???

Take a look at Ghost Rider...... overtakes a police car, two cops inside, gets up off the seat and tuns around sitting backwards.
Then gives em a double birdie, twice, before getting back on the right way round and pissing off big time on the back wheel! Thats disrepectful!
I dont see the problem with what youre saying TC.


yea but respect to the guy

streaky

19,311 posts

270 months

Tuesday 9th December 2003
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SpudGunner said:
Streaky is right, people do unfortunately associate speed cameras with traffic police even though they are 2 totally different things.

One fires off fixed penalty notices indiscriminately to all and sundry without rhyme or reason for very minor offences, and then there are the speed cameras....
I wish to disassociate myself from this remark - S

SpudGunner said:
... It does make me laugh when trafpols are driving at 70 on the motorway the chaos and queues that build up as people try to pluck up the courage to overtake you!
Worse are those sitting at 65mph (as indicated on the average car speedo, around 60-62 in real/calibrated terms) ... the traffic piles up miles behind them - usually in lanes 1 & 2. Actually, it's fun to overtake everyone and see then frantically waving and then looking astonished and faintly smug waiting for you to be stopped. When nothing happens, they all creep past at +1mph, until there are three of more cars behind them and the speed rises to 80+ - Streaky

millasur

55 posts

268 months

Tuesday 9th December 2003
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>oh great, so now he just goes on the rampage elsewhere.

they do that near where I live, and all hte little shits come to my area. And then get banned.

JMGS4

8,875 posts

291 months

Tuesday 9th December 2003
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tonyrec, just wanted to relate 2 incidents with police which I have experienced in GB when driving with a german numberplate. Thsi shows why some people have no respect...........
1) driving in Kent summer evening in the 90s in my Audi S4 412hp i.e. fast..... some local bobby in a noddy car tries to "rev me up" by accelerating dangerously towards me in a 30mph... reach the 50mph I floor it (to 50) leaving the noddy car... he again repeats the same more than once.. and then a dog ran out in front of me. Had to stand on everything and the eejit in the noddy car slings his Lutonsfinestcrap around me and destroys his left front suspension when he loses control... gets out of his crapmobil and threatens me, at which time I'm already on the phone for trafpol.
They arrived and only after various very strong verbal promises from me did they do anything about it. Then after about 5 months I get a summons, go to court and get the "eejitinthenoddycar" booked for dangerous driving and he loses his license. costs of £1500 and my time get paid for!! I could have lost my faith in BiB for that..... nearly did when the station chief told me it was not up to me to want charges preferred.....

2) On the M6 near Rugby heading south, outside lane 120kph (3.8mph faster than the limit). Trafpol in a Rangerover, come screaming down the slip road from the services blinking LEFT and cut througha all traffic to outside lane, then put his blues on and and cut back across all 3 lanes blinking RIGHT, then swerved right again!! After a 2 mins he switches everything off and pulls left.. I continue in the outside lane at 120kph (have only ks on speedo) and he pulls me and gets very nasty.... only when my wife asks very pleasantly which station he was from and who is his duty officer did he calm down and realise he cannot terrorise a normal person (I suspected racism as I was driving a german reg car!) Again for this guy absolutely NO repect.....
Otherwise in Britain I've met nothing but good reasonable and polite trafpols...who know what they're on about!!!

tonyrec

Original Poster:

3,984 posts

276 months

Tuesday 9th December 2003
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deltaf said:
You think thats disrepectful???

Take a look at Ghost Rider...... overtakes a police car, two cops inside, gets up off the seat and tuns around sitting backwards.
Then gives em a double birdie, twice, before getting back on the right way round and pissing off big time on the back wheel! Thats disrepectful!
I dont see the problem with what youre saying TC.


I wonder though, which one would whinge like a drain when they got a ticket (or worse)?

Podie

46,647 posts

296 months

Tuesday 9th December 2003
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puggit said:
Book 'em Tony!






Apache

39,731 posts

305 months

Tuesday 9th December 2003
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Tony, was it an area that warrented a 40 a speed limit? if not then the guy was probably just another fed up motorist trying to get to work and was probably even trying to make a point. Otherwise a tosser

funkihamsta

1,261 posts

284 months

Tuesday 9th December 2003
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People generally trust human police officers. They do not trust the non-negotiable scamera. If could be set off doing 31mph in a 30mph zone. It could be faulty. People don't trust something they can't reason with...so they go extra slow to make sure.