Sending a pint back
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Lefty Guns

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19,870 posts

226 months

Friday 19th June 2009
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Ever sent a dodgy pint back?

I did it last night and got a fair bit of grief from the barman and manager.

It was guinness and it was rancid. The managers attitude was that I didn't know what I was talking about and that plenty of Irish drink in his bar and never complained.

I'd already had 2 pints of guinness elsewhere that were perfectly fine, I've been drinking the stuff for years and practically lived on it when I worked in Dublin for 9 months...

In the end they poured me another pint which was exactly the same. I asked for something else and the barman at first demanded payment for the new drink. In the end he settled for the difference (15p)

rolleyes

EDITED TO MAKE SENSE

Edited by Lefty Guns on Friday 19th June 10:37

Dave^

7,797 posts

277 months

Friday 19th June 2009
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only bad pint i've had (worth sending back anyway) tasted of line cleaner....

pint after was fine, but they didn't hastle me about it....

but then again it was only lager....

shirt

25,077 posts

225 months

Friday 19th June 2009
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if its genuinely bad i will send it back yes. i was trained on all aspects of the cellar/lines to caskmark std. when working behind the bar so can usually tell what is wrong, though some pubs just can't get guinness right to save their lives.

odd attitude from the barman.

miniman

29,394 posts

286 months

Friday 19th June 2009
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I send bad pints back all the time. If the landlord is not amenable to this, go to a better pub. There's no excuse for a bad pint, keeping beer adequately is not difficult. Keeping beer *well* is another matter, but its not hard to avoid the punter getting a pint of vinegar.

bazking69

8,620 posts

214 months

Friday 19th June 2009
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If it doesn't taste right, it goes back and it gets replaced with something of satisfactory quality. While I'll put up with a rubbish pint, I won't if it is obviously iffy or off.
Regardless of what the barman may say, the customers judgement is always right.
Regarding ordering a pint, I have also found that if you ask, providing there isn't a queue, most barmen will let you have a small glass of a guest beer/ale to try before you buy. I like to try new ales/bitters and this saves buying a pint to find out it is awful like some can be.

Dave^

7,797 posts

277 months

Friday 19th June 2009
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thegavster said:
Dave^ said:
only bad pint i've had (worth sending back anyway) tasted of line cleaner....
That's happened to me as well and marks us both out as quite keen drinkers, getting the first pint through the lines that day hehe
laugh

:hik:

nah, i was one of the first at a party being held in a private-ish bar seperate from the rest of the gaff....

in fact, i'd only just turned 18 at the time hehe

robbin'b

115 posts

233 months

Friday 19th June 2009
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Some time back I used to be a regular at lunchtime in the local, went with a work colleague or three, we would sit and wait while the first few pints got pulled through just to be sure the line cleaner was well out of it.

At the Station in Sutton Coldfield one Saturday the barman gave me a pint just as the manager came in - he didn't even let me taste it, just up and in the sink and the command 'get the barrel changed'!

He was right too... but that's the way it should be, keep good beer and know your beer!

Cheers Keith!

Rob

hman

7,497 posts

218 months

Friday 19th June 2009
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fk that, I'd have left as soon as he'd started arguing the point.

what a .

williamp

20,124 posts

297 months

Friday 19th June 2009
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yep, done it lots of times, but then I drink ale.

One time I asked for a beer, and the barmaid put her hand on the pump, paused..and then a full pint magically appeared from under the counter.

"whats that"
"Its beer"
"But its not fresh. Thats been kept there for a while" etc

I never did win that argument. It seemed I was too "uptight, and should relax" about the whole thing. it wasnt cool, you see and...

threesixty

2,068 posts

227 months

Friday 19th June 2009
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Sent loads of drinks back here.

Nothing to be ashamed of and if the bar staff gave me any bother over it then I'd never go back.

Had a g&t that tasted of sambucca at the weekend (someone not washing out their measures) rank!

Forthright MC

8,362 posts

307 months

Friday 19th June 2009
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miniman said:
I send bad pints back all the time. If the landlord is not amenable to this, go to a better pub. There's no excuse for a bad pint, keeping beer adequately is not difficult. Keeping beer *well* is another matter, but its not hard to avoid the punter getting a pint of vinegar.
yes +1

It's not unknown for me to send a pint back if a beer has turned and is genuinely undrinkable (Another Real Ale drinker here), a few simple measures i take to avoid having to do so tho' are taking a quick look at the beer for any cloudiness (for say if a beer has gone on too soon and hasn't settled properly) a sniff (yes proper beer smells lovely in good nick, but if any hints of vinegar or line cleaner etc are noticeable back it goes!) and then glugging can commence!

Edited by Forthright MC on Friday 19th June 14:08

Jonny671

29,789 posts

213 months

Friday 19th June 2009
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At the club i'm bar staff at, if its bad or smells bad.. We'll just pour you another.. Sometimes the first few are a little weird but thats either because someone forgot to run the pumps a little bit at the beginning of the night, or just because it might be empty etc.

Same with the soft drink gun, if the customer says it tastes weird.. Just get them another.

Shaw Tarse

31,836 posts

227 months

Friday 19th June 2009
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I've sent beer back if it's not right. When I was working in a pub I'd offer to change a pint if it looked cloudy/ wrong even if the customer hadn't complained.

shirt

25,077 posts

225 months

Friday 19th June 2009
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at the pub i worked at, we had to taste the real ale each time we changed a barrel / cleaned the lines. for some reason this usually required at least half a pint, getting through several barrels a shift smile

anonymous-user

78 months

Friday 19th June 2009
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Only one I've had to send back was a pint of Grolsch that tasted distinctly of bleach yuck In fairness, they didn't quibble and poured me something else straight away, but the barman couldn't resist the urge to try it.

Davi

17,153 posts

244 months

Friday 19th June 2009
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Sent plenty back, having worked behind plenty of bars I've seen plenty others do it as well. Pint is no different from anything else you purchase, if it aint right, get it sorted!

mrmr96

13,736 posts

228 months

Friday 19th June 2009
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I find that they are less inclined to replace said pint if you're more than halfway through it when you decide to return it...

Jonny671

29,789 posts

213 months

Friday 19th June 2009
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mrmr96 said:
I find that they are less inclined to replace said pint if you're more than halfway through it when you decide to return it...
I can understand why they'd be like that! laugh

Nolar Dog

8,786 posts

219 months

Friday 19th June 2009
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If I drink a pint these days it's Guinness.

I'd certainly send it back if it genuinely wasn't right though.
As said though some people just have no idea how to keep it and/or how to pour it.

My local does a fabulous pint of Guinness so I can't forsee any issues there wink

miniman

29,394 posts

286 months

Friday 19th June 2009
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You have to try pretty damn hard to cock up keeping Guinness as its just in a keg and providing it is in date there should be nothing you can do to it to kill it. A bad Guinness will almost certainly be because the lines aren't clean.

It also amazes me the number of bar staff who can't be arsed to pour Guinness properly. It needs a good 1-2 minutes to settle. A decent Irish pub will typically have 5 or so 3/4 filled pints lined up ready for topping off for the next punter. Pouring it badly is almost as sinful as drinking it before its settled then complaining it tastes like crap. Well of course it does, it hasn't settled!