So where does this leave the REAL F1 Fans?
Discussion
So The Spank will step down to enjoy his basement past times in his retirement, and I guess The Midget has waved a few extra million in front of the FOTA teams (though where does this leave the millions he still owes McLaren and others?)
However, I feel the biggest loser in all this are the real F1 fans, those from countries across europe who are seeing The Midget demand spiralling costs for circuits that simple can't afford to hold a race anymore, only for a currupt far eastern government happy to throw millions in the path of The Midget to secure an F1 race - but to what end?
Half empty grand stands in Turkey, China having give tickets away and still unable to fill grandstands - this is just a joke.
FOTA were the only organisation keen to seek more involvement with the fans - the best teams with the best drivers racing on the best circuits in the world is what we heard from them week after week after week, and we the REAL F1 fan fell for this which is why over 80% of the fans supported what FOTA stood for.
So what do they stand for today then?
Are we the fans really happy about today's outcome?
Are we going to be listened to with The Midget still in place?
Who's to say that The Spank won't do another U-turn again and stands in October, at a tiem when the FOTA teams would not be able to setup a breakaway series in 2010?
The FIA and The Spank may be publically saying that there is Peace at last in F1, but I feel the public are saying: At what cost?
However, I feel the biggest loser in all this are the real F1 fans, those from countries across europe who are seeing The Midget demand spiralling costs for circuits that simple can't afford to hold a race anymore, only for a currupt far eastern government happy to throw millions in the path of The Midget to secure an F1 race - but to what end?
Half empty grand stands in Turkey, China having give tickets away and still unable to fill grandstands - this is just a joke.
FOTA were the only organisation keen to seek more involvement with the fans - the best teams with the best drivers racing on the best circuits in the world is what we heard from them week after week after week, and we the REAL F1 fan fell for this which is why over 80% of the fans supported what FOTA stood for.
So what do they stand for today then?
Are we the fans really happy about today's outcome?
Are we going to be listened to with The Midget still in place?
Who's to say that The Spank won't do another U-turn again and stands in October, at a tiem when the FOTA teams would not be able to setup a breakaway series in 2010?
The FIA and The Spank may be publically saying that there is Peace at last in F1, but I feel the public are saying: At what cost?
It may be a compromise and it would be better without Bernie and especially Max involved, but IMHO, we've still won.
If the split had gone ahead we'd have had the same situation as the Indycar / CART situation 10 years ago, and that didn't turn out well for either side. Had it gone ahead the FOTA orgainised series may well have emerged as the premier racing category in the world and knocked "F1" off its perch, but it still wouldnt have had the prestige of F1 as we know it now, a single championship thats leagues ahead of everything else technically, and with a rich history. If the "new" F1 had prevailed, it wouldnt be the same without the likes of Ferrari and Mclaren as competitors.
I think what we'll see now is a gradual moulding of F1 by FOTA into something similar to what they envisaged with the breakaway series anyway, in the past everything has basically been dictated by Bernie and Max because the teams have never managed to stick together long enough to argue the toss and get their own ideas across. This has now changed, the FIA and Bernie now know the manufacturers are serious, they know they'll stick together and they know they'll seriously consider taking their toys elsewhere should this ever happen again, so Bernie/Max can no longer use divide and conquer to get their own way, and they'll have to seriously listen to them in future.
If the split had gone ahead we'd have had the same situation as the Indycar / CART situation 10 years ago, and that didn't turn out well for either side. Had it gone ahead the FOTA orgainised series may well have emerged as the premier racing category in the world and knocked "F1" off its perch, but it still wouldnt have had the prestige of F1 as we know it now, a single championship thats leagues ahead of everything else technically, and with a rich history. If the "new" F1 had prevailed, it wouldnt be the same without the likes of Ferrari and Mclaren as competitors.
I think what we'll see now is a gradual moulding of F1 by FOTA into something similar to what they envisaged with the breakaway series anyway, in the past everything has basically been dictated by Bernie and Max because the teams have never managed to stick together long enough to argue the toss and get their own ideas across. This has now changed, the FIA and Bernie now know the manufacturers are serious, they know they'll stick together and they know they'll seriously consider taking their toys elsewhere should this ever happen again, so Bernie/Max can no longer use divide and conquer to get their own way, and they'll have to seriously listen to them in future.
LocoBlade said:
It may be a compromise and it would be better without Bernie and especially Max involved, but IMHO, we've still won.
If the split had gone ahead we'd have had the same situation as the Indycar / CART situation 10 years ago, and that didn't turn out well for either side. Had it gone ahead the FOTA orgainised series may well have emerged as the premier racing category in the world and knocked "F1" off its perch, but it still wouldnt have had the prestige of F1 as we know it now, a single championship thats leagues ahead of everything else technically, and with a rich history. If the "new" F1 had prevailed, it wouldnt be the same without the likes of Ferrari and Mclaren as competitors.
I think what we'll see now is a gradual moulding of F1 by FOTA into something similar to what they envisaged with the breakaway series anyway, in the past everything has basically been dictated by Bernie and Max because the teams have never managed to stick together long enough to argue the toss and get their own ideas across. This has now changed, the FIA and Bernie now know the manufacturers are serious, they know they'll stick together and they know they'll seriously consider taking their toys elsewhere should this ever happen again, so Bernie/Max can no longer use divide and conquer to get their own way, and they'll have to seriously listen to them in future.
Well put - anyone who thinks they've been diddled is deluding themselves. Two series would have been a disaster and I'd rather have a couple of races with no crowds than 17 of them. In any case a series run by the manufacturers can only be a bad thing as half of them would probably leave after a year or two leaving what? And that's before we get on to even more corporate entertainment, after all none of them are in it for the love of the sport, are they?If the split had gone ahead we'd have had the same situation as the Indycar / CART situation 10 years ago, and that didn't turn out well for either side. Had it gone ahead the FOTA orgainised series may well have emerged as the premier racing category in the world and knocked "F1" off its perch, but it still wouldnt have had the prestige of F1 as we know it now, a single championship thats leagues ahead of everything else technically, and with a rich history. If the "new" F1 had prevailed, it wouldnt be the same without the likes of Ferrari and Mclaren as competitors.
I think what we'll see now is a gradual moulding of F1 by FOTA into something similar to what they envisaged with the breakaway series anyway, in the past everything has basically been dictated by Bernie and Max because the teams have never managed to stick together long enough to argue the toss and get their own ideas across. This has now changed, the FIA and Bernie now know the manufacturers are serious, they know they'll stick together and they know they'll seriously consider taking their toys elsewhere should this ever happen again, so Bernie/Max can no longer use divide and conquer to get their own way, and they'll have to seriously listen to them in future.
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