A4 2.0TDi engines - are they good?
A4 2.0TDi engines - are they good?
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gadgesxi

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209 months

Thursday 25th June 2009
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Looking at A4 avants with the 2.0tdi (140bhp) engine. Within my budget, the engines have between 80-100k on them. Is this anything to worry about?

Also i have a reset bluefin unit and as going to remap the engine, would this be ok given the mile the engine has done?

Thanks for the help!

DPX

1,027 posts

231 months

Thursday 25th June 2009
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My only problem is the dipstick it is a real pain to check the oil AUDI why didnt you make it another colour ?

Flibble

6,538 posts

212 months

Thursday 25th June 2009
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Why, what colour is it?

Tame Technician

2,467 posts

235 months

Thursday 25th June 2009
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Injector seals (loss of fuel pressure, hi rpm misfire)
Tandem pumps (engine oil gets into fuel + hi rpm misfire)
Injectors (rough running)
Porous heads (coolant loss with no outward leak)
EGR Coolers (coolant loss with no outward leak)
EGR valves (rough running + massive smoke intermittently)
Oil pump drive chain (sudden loss of oil pressure, destroys turbo + engine damage posible)
Turbos (vains stick causing over boost, or bearing failure from above oil pressure loss)

Oh and the dual mas flywheels can exploded and the clutches tend to judder, A parts from that, its all good.

Dipstick are black, dead handy when reading oil level in a diesel (which even straight after a change is always black)


gadgesxi

Original Poster:

23 posts

209 months

Thursday 25th June 2009
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Tame Technician said:
Injector seals (loss of fuel pressure, hi rpm misfire)
Tandem pumps (engine oil gets into fuel + hi rpm misfire)
Injectors (rough running)
Porous heads (coolant loss with no outward leak)
EGR Coolers (coolant loss with no outward leak)
EGR valves (rough running + massive smoke intermittently)
Oil pump drive chain (sudden loss of oil pressure, destroys turbo + engine damage posible)
Turbos (vains stick causing over boost, or bearing failure from above oil pressure loss)

Oh and the dual mas flywheels can exploded and the clutches tend to judder, A parts from that, its all good.

Dipstick are black, dead handy when reading oil level in a diesel (which even straight after a change is always black)
hmmm sound good!

what about the bigger audi TDi's? the 2.7

Tame Technician

2,467 posts

235 months

Thursday 25th June 2009
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Done a few turbo's on the really early ones. And the inlet manifold flaps sometimes stick, other than that seem pretty good. And they don't sound like a tractor like the PD engines.

Do they do 2.7 in the model year of A4 your looking at.??

Dr G

15,990 posts

273 months

Thursday 25th June 2009
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Only ever come across the one A4 2.7! Don't appear to have sold particularly well.

gadgesxi

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23 posts

209 months

Friday 26th June 2009
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Looking for A6 avant S line's. So the digger diesel engine in that, is it 2.5 or 2.7?

Tame Technician

2,467 posts

235 months

Friday 26th June 2009
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God the 2.5 is worse than the 2.0 by miles

Dr G

15,990 posts

273 months

Friday 26th June 2009
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gadgesxi said:
Looking for A6 avant S line's. So the digger diesel engine in that, is it 2.5 or 2.7?
S-Line is going to be a C6 chassis A6 which were never offered with the 2.5

Flibble

6,538 posts

212 months

Friday 26th June 2009
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Tame Technician said:
Injector seals (loss of fuel pressure, hi rpm misfire)
Tandem pumps (engine oil gets into fuel + hi rpm misfire)
Injectors (rough running)
Porous heads (coolant loss with no outward leak)
EGR Coolers (coolant loss with no outward leak)
EGR valves (rough running + massive smoke intermittently)
Oil pump drive chain (sudden loss of oil pressure, destroys turbo + engine damage posible)
Turbos (vains stick causing over boost, or bearing failure from above oil pressure loss)

Oh and the dual mas flywheels can exploded and the clutches tend to judder, A parts from that, its all good.

Dipstick are black, dead handy when reading oil level in a diesel (which even straight after a change is always black)
Is it just the PD diesels that are this unreliable?

gadgesxi

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23 posts

209 months

Friday 26th June 2009
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so whats the best engine for the A6? with my budget (£10k) the millage is going to be high.
Or am i better looking at bmw 530d tourers?

Dr G

15,990 posts

273 months

Friday 26th June 2009
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All engines have their problems and the 2.0 TDI - considering the hundreds of thousands of cars with this donk fitted - seems to be generally reliable if correctly serviced.

We see far fewer problems with these than we ever did with the old generation engines, 2.5 in particular.

If you're looking to spend £10k however you'll probably get a better car in the BMW - with the new model A6 that will put you at the very bottom end. I'd spend £14k to give you a better choice of cars, you'll really want full leather and DVD Nav also.

Edited by Dr G on Friday 26th June 09:06

gadgesxi

Original Poster:

23 posts

209 months

Friday 26th June 2009
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Dr G said:
All engines have their problems and the 2.0 TDI - considering the hundreds of thousands of cars with this donk fitted - seems to be generally reliable if correctly serviced.

We see far fewer problems with these than we ever did with the old generation engines, 2.5 in particular.

If you're looking to spend £10k however you'll probably get a better car in the BMW - with the new model A6 that will put you at the very bottom end. I'd spend £14k to give you a better choice of cars, you'll really want full leather and DVD Nav also.

Edited by Dr G on Friday 26th June 09:06
Im maxed out at £10k tbh. Seen nice 525d and 530d tourers, but have between 100k-120k on the clock, and are 4 year old cars. Is this something to worry about?

FoolOnTheHill

1,018 posts

242 months

Friday 26th June 2009
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10k will get a good condition BMW 320d, with the 150bhp diesel in it.

Tame Technician

2,467 posts

235 months

Saturday 27th June 2009
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The 2.5 it just a dog stay away.

The 2.0TDI, is starting to give us a good few problems now, we get one a week or so with one of the common faults I listed, however Dr G made a good point, There are hundreds of thousands of these engines out there in every thing VAG, so for every one or two I see playing up, there are another 1000 or so going strong. It is difficult to put this in perspective when you work on cars for a living, I only see them when they are broken. And it does seems to be the same things that brake.

The 1.9PD engine seems bullet proof, but are very unrefined and noisy, they dont suffer half of the problems the very similar 2.0 does.

The 2.0 common rail engines are too new to tell, we had a couple blow up when B8 A4 was launched the very first cars, and no probs since.

Regarding the best engine in an A6 for £10k, got to be the 2.7 for me. I had a look and you can get them for that money.

http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/cars/AUDI...

gadgesxi

Original Poster:

23 posts

209 months

Saturday 27th June 2009
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Tame Technician said:
The 2.5 it just a dog stay away.

The 2.0TDI, is starting to give us a good few problems now, we get one a week or so with one of the common faults I listed, however Dr G made a good point, There are hundreds of thousands of these engines out there in every thing VAG, so for every one or two I see playing up, there are another 1000 or so going strong. It is difficult to put this in perspective when you work on cars for a living, I only see them when they are broken. And it does seems to be the same things that brake.

The 1.9PD engine seems bullet proof, but are very unrefined and noisy, they dont suffer half of the problems the very similar 2.0 does.

The 2.0 common rail engines are too new to tell, we had a couple blow up when B8 A4 was launched the very first cars, and no probs since.

Regarding the best engine in an A6 for £10k, got to be the 2.7 for me. I had a look and you can get them for that money.

http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/cars/AUDI...
thanks for that link, i was really put off audi's from coments about there reliability.
I have the offer of a 54 plate 530d tourer for £9.5k, thing is its got 130,000 on the clock, but it has FBMWSH.

blaineuk

2,615 posts

278 months

Saturday 27th June 2009
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for 10k you could have my 320d (163bhp) new shape touring, although probably not big enough for you

gadgesxi

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209 months

Saturday 27th June 2009
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blaineuk said:
for 10k you could have my 320d (163bhp) new shape touring, although probably not big enough for you
will 2 rhodesian ridgebacks fit in the boot!

Dr G

15,990 posts

273 months

Saturday 27th June 2009
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gadgesxi said:
blaineuk said:
for 10k you could have my 320d (163bhp) new shape touring, although probably not big enough for you
will 2 rhodesian ridgebacks fit in the boot!
Did I speak to you a couple of weeks ago? Had someone ask me that very question!

That sort of mileage on an A6 wouldn't really be an issue, we've sold a couple with over 100 on and decent history - given us no bother at all.