If PH controlled the FIA
Discussion
We would end up with 5 tier series.
Tier 1. The best current spec
Tier 2. The best spec from the 90's
Tier 3. The best spec from the 80's
Tier 4. The best spec from the 70's
Tier 5. Cars with bodywork so they could "bump and spin"
We would also make donuts/burnouts compulsory with a bonus championship point for the best smokey.
Half a point for each overtake and Half for each pitlane incident including running over your pit crew, leaving the fuel nozzle attached while exiting pitlane etc.
We would force each driver to compete in every tier at least twice.
We would bring some old drivers out of retirement so they can prove that they are far more skilled than the current crop.
Murray Walker would commentate and "The Chain" would be played on a loop for the entire duration of the race.
How hard can it be to get things right?
Tier 1. The best current spec
Tier 2. The best spec from the 90's
Tier 3. The best spec from the 80's
Tier 4. The best spec from the 70's
Tier 5. Cars with bodywork so they could "bump and spin"
We would also make donuts/burnouts compulsory with a bonus championship point for the best smokey.
Half a point for each overtake and Half for each pitlane incident including running over your pit crew, leaving the fuel nozzle attached while exiting pitlane etc.
We would force each driver to compete in every tier at least twice.
We would bring some old drivers out of retirement so they can prove that they are far more skilled than the current crop.
Murray Walker would commentate and "The Chain" would be played on a loop for the entire duration of the race.
How hard can it be to get things right?
Positions 1 to 8 score points as today +
1 point for fastest race lap
1 bonus point for every race that engine has already done
Would add a few jokers such as '25+ points for a win if you make an engine last all season, or even 11 points for fastest race lap if the engine has done 10 races.
1 point for fastest race lap
1 bonus point for every race that engine has already done
Would add a few jokers such as '25+ points for a win if you make an engine last all season, or even 11 points for fastest race lap if the engine has done 10 races.
And have 5 points for pole and the cars would be allowed to add nitros for qualifying and special extra wide chewing gum sticky slicks.
I'd also have the race day broken into two races - 40 lapper (or equivalent distance) with start positions as per qualifying and then a second 20 lapper sprint with the grid in reverse order of the first race. Would be awesome viewing!
Works perfectly well at my local kart track so why not F1
I'd also have the race day broken into two races - 40 lapper (or equivalent distance) with start positions as per qualifying and then a second 20 lapper sprint with the grid in reverse order of the first race. Would be awesome viewing!
Works perfectly well at my local kart track so why not F1
Dock one point for each use of the phrase 'For Sure' in an interview
BTCC style success ballast
Banning of aerofoil wings; ground effect and body integrated aero only, movable devices allowed
Design freedom with dimensions, layouts, transmissions, powertrain, fuel/energy (obviously with equivalence built in), only limit being contact patch size and open wheels.
Basically, regulations to not only encourage racing, but encourange engineering compromise and not conformity, with the ballast to ensure that it doesn't become one sided
ETA - Forgot to add, more, shorter races to avoid the boring endurance effect
BTCC style success ballast
Banning of aerofoil wings; ground effect and body integrated aero only, movable devices allowed
Design freedom with dimensions, layouts, transmissions, powertrain, fuel/energy (obviously with equivalence built in), only limit being contact patch size and open wheels.
Basically, regulations to not only encourage racing, but encourange engineering compromise and not conformity, with the ballast to ensure that it doesn't become one sided
ETA - Forgot to add, more, shorter races to avoid the boring endurance effect
Edited by The Wookie on Thursday 25th June 12:48
I would say spend whatever the hell they like, bring back tobacco sponsorship if only to get the good liveries like the McLaren Marlboro and JPS Lotus back. Allow active suspension, TC, LC, KERS, flexiwings etc, but the big teams have to make them available at low costs to the smaller teams. Keep the dimensions of the cars the same, and no winglets as per 2009 rules, except replace the horridly out of proportion rear wing with the lower, wider wings of before. Driver salaries are capped at £30k a year, but they get £1m for a win, £10k for second, £5k for 3rd, nothing after that except points. That'll make them overtake. And deduct £5m every time they say "for sure". Bring back Friday qualifying, pre qualifying (open floodgates for many other teams). Don't care what engine you use as long as it's under 1500bhp (1.5l V6 turbo anyone?), ground effects etc allowed.
And as an added deterrant, anyone using the phrase "for sure" will have to have a massive crudely drawn cock, complete with spunk shooting out, on their helmet for the next race.
And after the race, booze filled sex party.
And as an added deterrant, anyone using the phrase "for sure" will have to have a massive crudely drawn cock, complete with spunk shooting out, on their helmet for the next race.
And after the race, booze filled sex party.
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One point for fastest lap
One point for pole
One point for the most positions gained in the race
Pistonheads driver of the day trophey and championship point (to be decided by me!
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No refuelling
One compound of tyre
Standard rear wing to be FIA/PH controlled and produced. Lots of drag and not much downforce.
No budget cap (the industry is self-regulating anyway). Have technology sharing meetings that all teams have to adhere to.
Race stewards to be ex-racing drivers. Alesi, Herbert and Irvine ideally. Final decisions to be made at the track before the fans leave.
Bernie to be told to FO. Teams own F1 and get the profits split however many ways, as there are teams.
FIA Presidency to run for a maximum of 3 years with no more than two consecutive terms in power.
Hermann Tilke to be told to FO. None of his tracks to be used in the world championship.
Ill post more when I think of them
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One point for fastest lap
One point for pole
One point for the most positions gained in the race
Pistonheads driver of the day trophey and championship point (to be decided by me!
)No refuelling
One compound of tyre
Standard rear wing to be FIA/PH controlled and produced. Lots of drag and not much downforce.
No budget cap (the industry is self-regulating anyway). Have technology sharing meetings that all teams have to adhere to.
Race stewards to be ex-racing drivers. Alesi, Herbert and Irvine ideally. Final decisions to be made at the track before the fans leave.
Bernie to be told to FO. Teams own F1 and get the profits split however many ways, as there are teams.
FIA Presidency to run for a maximum of 3 years with no more than two consecutive terms in power.
Hermann Tilke to be told to FO. None of his tracks to be used in the world championship.
Ill post more when I think of them
Return to ultra sticky qually tyres, no "race fuel" qually 3 nonsense, and minor points for front row.
Get rid of the ultra modern but poorly attended circuits.
At least 3 British Grands prix per year - Silv, Donny and Brands with massively discounted entry costs for PH members.
All safety related chicanes to be removed or have their surface liberally greased prior to the actual race.
A fully funded two car Pistonheads team, piloted by the winner of a random draw each meeting from the PH membership.
Instant return of the Hawiian Tropic girls.
Get rid of the ultra modern but poorly attended circuits.
At least 3 British Grands prix per year - Silv, Donny and Brands with massively discounted entry costs for PH members.
All safety related chicanes to be removed or have their surface liberally greased prior to the actual race.
A fully funded two car Pistonheads team, piloted by the winner of a random draw each meeting from the PH membership.
Instant return of the Hawiian Tropic girls.
FIA to be split in two - one part dealing with road cars etc with all countries voting for the president of that part. Other part purely dealing with motorsport, and only holders of competition licences, team owners & employees, circuit owners & employees eligible to vote for its president and other officials.
As for F1:
Flat bottomed chassis, with min ride height of 10cm ( should get rid of ground effect )
Front and rear wings not to extend further than inner wall of the tyres ( minimise aero )
Steel brake disks ( extend braking distances )
No tyre changes during race ( unless punctured, or the weather changes )
No refuelling
Get rid of all the adjustable bits ( e.g. brake bias ) controlled by the knobs on the steering wheel
Engine design free, to a 3 litre capacity limit. No rev limit rule
95RON fuel, with up to 10% ethanol
1 point for pole
1 point for fastest lap during race
As for F1:
Flat bottomed chassis, with min ride height of 10cm ( should get rid of ground effect )
Front and rear wings not to extend further than inner wall of the tyres ( minimise aero )
Steel brake disks ( extend braking distances )
No tyre changes during race ( unless punctured, or the weather changes )
No refuelling
Get rid of all the adjustable bits ( e.g. brake bias ) controlled by the knobs on the steering wheel
Engine design free, to a 3 litre capacity limit. No rev limit rule
95RON fuel, with up to 10% ethanol
1 point for pole
1 point for fastest lap during race
MartG said:
FIA to be split in two - one part dealing with road cars etc with all countries voting for the president of that part. Other part purely dealing with motorsport, and only holders of competition licences, team owners & employees, circuit owners & employees eligible to vote for its president and other officials.
As for F1:
Flat bottomed chassis, with min ride height of 10cm ( should get rid of ground effect )
Front and rear wings not to extend further than inner wall of the tyres ( minimise aero )
Steel brake disks ( extend braking distances )
No tyre changes during race ( unless punctured, or the weather changes )
No refuelling
Get rid of all the adjustable bits ( e.g. brake bias ) controlled by the knobs on the steering wheel
Engine design free, to a 3 litre capacity limit. No rev limit rule
95RON fuel, with up to 10% ethanol
1 point for pole
1 point for fastest lap during race
Brake Bias has nothing to do with the controls on the steering wheel. It is a mechanically operated knob on the bulkhead. If you banned that, you would be promoting accidents and it would go against your "no tyre changes" rule.As for F1:
Flat bottomed chassis, with min ride height of 10cm ( should get rid of ground effect )
Front and rear wings not to extend further than inner wall of the tyres ( minimise aero )
Steel brake disks ( extend braking distances )
No tyre changes during race ( unless punctured, or the weather changes )
No refuelling
Get rid of all the adjustable bits ( e.g. brake bias ) controlled by the knobs on the steering wheel
Engine design free, to a 3 litre capacity limit. No rev limit rule
95RON fuel, with up to 10% ethanol
1 point for pole
1 point for fastest lap during race
Steel brake discs will not produce longer braking distances. They are not massively different in performance, only in the weight of the discs and pads. The heat dissapation is better in the carbon/carbon brakes, ie steel discs will stay hotter for longer.
Gazboy said:
I'd just let them get on with it and let the engineers evolve their sports.
The only restrictions I'd put on it is it must fit in a certain size "box". I might also limit the ammount of "energy" it may consume in the race. Don't care HOW you power it. But no more than XXXXXXX joules or the like.stifler said:
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One point for fastest lap
One point for pole
One point for the most positions gained in the race
Pistonheads driver of the day trophey and championship point (to be decided by me! )
No refuelling
One compound of tyre
Standard rear wing to be FIA/PH controlled and produced. Lots of drag and not much downforce.
No budget cap (the industry is self-regulating anyway). Have technology sharing meetings that all teams have to adhere to.
Race stewards to be ex-racing drivers. Alesi, Herbert and Irvine ideally. Final decisions to be made at the track before the fans leave.
Bernie to be told to FO. Teams own F1 and get the profits split however many ways, as there are teams.
FIA Presidency to run for a maximum of 3 years with no more than two consecutive terms in power.
Hermann Tilke to be told to FO. None of his tracks to be used in the world championship.
Ill post more when I think of them
agreed. but i'd also add 200l fuel to finish the race - make the best use of it that you can (i.e. open engine design)2 11
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8 1
One point for fastest lap
One point for pole
One point for the most positions gained in the race
Pistonheads driver of the day trophey and championship point (to be decided by me!
)No refuelling
One compound of tyre
Standard rear wing to be FIA/PH controlled and produced. Lots of drag and not much downforce.
No budget cap (the industry is self-regulating anyway). Have technology sharing meetings that all teams have to adhere to.
Race stewards to be ex-racing drivers. Alesi, Herbert and Irvine ideally. Final decisions to be made at the track before the fans leave.
Bernie to be told to FO. Teams own F1 and get the profits split however many ways, as there are teams.
FIA Presidency to run for a maximum of 3 years with no more than two consecutive terms in power.
Hermann Tilke to be told to FO. None of his tracks to be used in the world championship.
Ill post more when I think of them
skinny said:
stifler said:
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4 7
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One point for fastest lap
One point for pole
One point for the most positions gained in the race
Pistonheads driver of the day trophey and championship point (to be decided by me! )
No refuelling
One compound of tyre
Standard rear wing to be FIA/PH controlled and produced. Lots of drag and not much downforce.
No budget cap (the industry is self-regulating anyway). Have technology sharing meetings that all teams have to adhere to.
Race stewards to be ex-racing drivers. Alesi, Herbert and Irvine ideally. Final decisions to be made at the track before the fans leave.
Bernie to be told to FO. Teams own F1 and get the profits split however many ways, as there are teams.
FIA Presidency to run for a maximum of 3 years with no more than two consecutive terms in power.
Hermann Tilke to be told to FO. None of his tracks to be used in the world championship.
Ill post more when I think of them
agreed. but i'd also add 200l fuel to finish the race - make the best use of it that you can (i.e. open engine design)2 11
3 9
4 7
5 5
6 3
7 2
8 1
One point for fastest lap
One point for pole
One point for the most positions gained in the race
Pistonheads driver of the day trophey and championship point (to be decided by me!
)No refuelling
One compound of tyre
Standard rear wing to be FIA/PH controlled and produced. Lots of drag and not much downforce.
No budget cap (the industry is self-regulating anyway). Have technology sharing meetings that all teams have to adhere to.
Race stewards to be ex-racing drivers. Alesi, Herbert and Irvine ideally. Final decisions to be made at the track before the fans leave.
Bernie to be told to FO. Teams own F1 and get the profits split however many ways, as there are teams.
FIA Presidency to run for a maximum of 3 years with no more than two consecutive terms in power.
Hermann Tilke to be told to FO. None of his tracks to be used in the world championship.
Ill post more when I think of them
they are one of the best things, especially the medical car 
pay all drivers £100k per year retainer. Additional earning made through top 8 places, with a win worth £1m.
Pay teams based on the number of overtakes on the track that have occured ( other than between team mates unless they are battling for the lead.) Pay the teams for the cost of crash repairs, and keep prize monies earned through overtaking if the the driver crashes out whilst trying a move.
take money off teams for each lap a driver is not gaining on the car in front unless in the lead.
Pay teams based on the number of overtakes on the track that have occured ( other than between team mates unless they are battling for the lead.) Pay the teams for the cost of crash repairs, and keep prize monies earned through overtaking if the the driver crashes out whilst trying a move.
take money off teams for each lap a driver is not gaining on the car in front unless in the lead.
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