German Motorway Tax
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SymonsO

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20 posts

225 months

Friday 26th June 2009
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Hi

My sister returned from Germany where she was on a road trip with her partner. To cut a long story short - At the German border they were pulled to a side with other foreign cars and were made to pay about £150 for "Annual Motorway Tax" even though they were only driving through for 2 days. It was 100% an official border and the "police" took payments by cash or credit card through a machine.

I must stress this wasn't a fake border etc it was an official border stop.

Does anyone know what this charge was or whether this is some sort of scam?

Regards,

Oliver

octane junkie

244 posts

290 months

Friday 26th June 2009
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Unless your sister was driving a heavy goods vehicle then I am pretty sure that she has been scammed. Where was the border crossing? (you do have to pay for vignettes on some Austrian and Swiss motorways). I live in Germany, we have 3 cars - 2 German registered and 1 still on UK plates and I have never been approached to pay anything for using autobahns.

cptsideways

13,811 posts

274 months

Friday 26th June 2009
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Only required for HGV's !!!

Unless you were on the Swiss or Austrian Borders by mistake or maybe in a campervan?

thehawk

9,335 posts

229 months

Sunday 28th June 2009
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Definitely not required for Germany and the Austrian fine is only €110 anyway if you drive without one.

But having said that, it would be a very brazen scam to run - all it would take would be one German person in a car to be passing who is a police/immigration/busybody.

Myobb

175 posts

244 months

Sunday 28th June 2009
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I travelled by car from France via Luxembourg into Germany last Thursday (& vice versa the previous week)& do this on a regular basis & have never seen such a scenario. Admittedly this was in an XK8 with German number plates but I kept (& drove) an E Type Roadster (with British Number plates) in Germany for 7 years & never had any problems. Very unlikely to be genuine. I live in Germany & if I was stopped & asked to pay a fine of such magnitude I would ring the police on the emergeny number 112 to check the situation out. And dont worry about the language - many German police speak (some) English.

JMGS4

8,877 posts

292 months

Monday 29th June 2009
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DEFINITELY a SCAM!!! Can you give further details, date time border crossing post a receipt etc etc? as there is NO car toll on german Autobahns. and I'm sure it'd be something for not paying autobahn tolls in Switzerland or Austria, when they probably crossed without knowing it...

bad company

21,268 posts

288 months

Tuesday 30th June 2009
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JMGS4 said:
DEFINITELY a SCAM!!! Can you give further details, date time border crossing post a receipt etc etc? as there is NO car toll on german Autobahns. and I'm sure it'd be something for not paying autobahn tolls in Switzerland or Austria, when they probably crossed without knowing it...
I don't see how you could cross into Switzerland without knowing given that you would have to pass through customs\immigration.

There is something wrong with this story.confused

hugo a gogo

23,421 posts

255 months

Tuesday 30th June 2009
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which border crossing? how was she stopped?

JMGS4

8,877 posts

292 months

Wednesday 1st July 2009
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bad company said:
JMGS4 said:
DEFINITELY a SCAM!!! Can you give further details, date time border crossing post a receipt etc etc? as there is NO car toll on german Autobahns. and I'm sure it'd be something for not paying autobahn tolls in Switzerland or Austria, when they probably crossed without knowing it...
I don't see how you could cross into Switzerland without knowing given that you would have to pass through customs\immigration.

There is something wrong with this story.confused
Most of the borders into Switzerland are lightly patrolled since Switzerland joined the Schengen Agreement. After 6pm here there's nobody!!!
PS I live 3kms as the crow flies from the CH/D border and cross about 300 times a year!!

Edited by JMGS4 on Wednesday 1st July 14:16

andye30m3

3,496 posts

276 months

Monday 20th July 2009
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we got pulled over by German police on the motorway when traveling from SPA to switzerland a couple of weeks ago

They never charged us anything just checked we had all our paperwork.

Elfer

1,925 posts

242 months

Monday 20th July 2009
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Border crossing?

Following the Schengen agreement, border controls between signatory countries have been abolished. Germany is a signatory, as are all the dark blue coloured countries on this map this map



Edited by Elfer on Monday 20th July 23:16

JMGS4

8,877 posts

292 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2009
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andye30m3 said:
we got pulled over by German police on the motorway when traveling from SPA to switzerland a couple of weeks ago

They never charged us anything just checked we had all our paperwork.
Probably because the majority of Brits visiting Germany drive far too slowly on the AB and cause a back-up. However if you were driving fast that is unusual for a GB plate, that's why you got tugged....

JMGS4

8,877 posts

292 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2009
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SymonsO said:
Does anyone know what this charge was or whether this is some sort of scam? Regards, Oliver
Oliver, can you post here or PM me the paperwork they gave her, I can clarify exactly what it was. I can only assume it was a speeding fine as they do set up a police check at some borders when a lot of furriners speed near the border...

hugo a gogo

23,421 posts

255 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2009
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thehawk said:
it would be a very brazen scam to run - all it would take would be one German person in a car to be passing who is a police/immigration/busybody.
that's everyone in Germany then! we know they are all part-time unpaid ordnungsamt informers biggrin

andye30m3

3,496 posts

276 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2009
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JMGS4 said:
andye30m3 said:
we got pulled over by German police on the motorway when traveling from SPA to switzerland a couple of weeks ago

They never charged us anything just checked we had all our paperwork.
Probably because the majority of Brits visiting Germany drive far too slowly on the AB and cause a back-up. However if you were driving fast that is unusual for a GB plate, that's why you got tugged....
The two lane road had been reduced to a single lane with the other lane being used to pull all non german cars over and check their paper work. I assumed this was quite standard pratise as there was no boarder control.

In all honesty the police were a nice bunch and suggested we headed to the nurburgring on our way home.

Elfer

1,925 posts

242 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2009
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Put it this way. I lived there for over a year. I had three cars there, two German registered cars and one British. None required "annual motorway tax". Because there is no such thing.

Perhaps your sister is confusing Germany with Austria or with Switzerland? Or perhaps you're just trying to pull our legs?


andye30m3

3,496 posts

276 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2009
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Even switzerland is only £30 or £40 which you pay at the boarder control, does sound like it could be a scam.

Or could it have been a fine for not having correct paperwork e.g. V5, insurance certificates etc?

paul.deitch

2,275 posts

279 months

Sunday 16th August 2009
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I was in Krakow, Poland in March and accidently drove into a pedestrian precinct late at night looking for our hotel. Three police stopped me and told me in English that there was a 100 euro cash fine for this. Wrote down details of all my documentation; passport, driving licence, vehicle docs etc. Then I told them that I didn,t have any euros. Remember the Polish currency is Zloties. More police turn up. Wife starts to get nervious, I show them my wallet, which just by chance had no money of any description in it, having spent it all in Czech republic smile. After much discussion in Polish between the now 7 police with 3 vehicles, they tell me to go away. Pure and simple Polish police corruption.