Why does the 2nd bloody goldfish keep dying!
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One decent size tank, regularly changed filter. 1st goldfish ( Goldy) is healthy happy, introduced another 10 days after and it's dead in 2 days. Everything cleaned again introduced another goldfish(from a different shop)same story. My little girl wants her daddy to have an answer please!
R.I.P. Silvy and Bronzy
R.I.P. Silvy and Bronzy
Jasandjules said:
Is the water good quality?
It may be that the quality has deteroriated over time and Goldy has acclimatised to it. But new fish comes in, gets shocked, and kicks the bucket.
+1 to this theory.It may be that the quality has deteroriated over time and Goldy has acclimatised to it. But new fish comes in, gets shocked, and kicks the bucket.
Get a small water test kit (no need to buy the £££s one, just a 'starter' kit will do), test for Nitrate, nitrite, PH and amonia...instrutions come with the kit. Have you done a partial water change on the tank recently? I'm no expert, just repeating what I've been told/read elsewhere regarding my Son's tropical tank.
OldSkoolRS said:
Jasandjules said:
Is the water good quality?
It may be that the quality has deteroriated over time and Goldy has acclimatised to it. But new fish comes in, gets shocked, and kicks the bucket.
+1 to this theory.It may be that the quality has deteroriated over time and Goldy has acclimatised to it. But new fish comes in, gets shocked, and kicks the bucket.
Get a small water test kit (no need to buy the £££s one, just a 'starter' kit will do), test for Nitrate, nitrite, PH and amonia...instrutions come with the kit.
This simple really but requires a serious PH solution.
1. Purchase another fish.
2. Inspect fish for any obvious health issues i.e. Fin rot, bad Aids or no head.
3. Put fish in tank with other fish
4. Walk nonchalantly away from the tank.
5. Purchase gun from local street children (Chavs)
6. Crouch behind sofa silently, waiting for nightfall.
7. Upon hearing little padded footsteps at 3am, jump out and apprehend fish killer.
1. Purchase another fish.
2. Inspect fish for any obvious health issues i.e. Fin rot, bad Aids or no head.
3. Put fish in tank with other fish
4. Walk nonchalantly away from the tank.
5. Purchase gun from local street children (Chavs)
6. Crouch behind sofa silently, waiting for nightfall.
7. Upon hearing little padded footsteps at 3am, jump out and apprehend fish killer.
Don't tell me it was gold as well !Have a read at http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/forum/
Basically,
Your tank needs to Cycle (not the two wheeled kind)
Regular water changes but never a full clean out.
Basically,
Your tank needs to Cycle (not the two wheeled kind)
Regular water changes but never a full clean out.
OldSkoolRS said:
Jasandjules said:
Is the water good quality?
It may be that the quality has deteroriated over time and Goldy has acclimatised to it. But new fish comes in, gets shocked, and kicks the bucket.
+1 to this theory.It may be that the quality has deteroriated over time and Goldy has acclimatised to it. But new fish comes in, gets shocked, and kicks the bucket.
Get a small water test kit (no need to buy the £££s one, just a 'starter' kit will do), test for Nitrate, nitrite, PH and amonia...instrutions come with the kit. Have you done a partial water change on the tank recently? I'm no expert, just repeating what I've been told/read elsewhere regarding my Son's tropical tank.
Bugga, the third one's gone now!
We have a fish cemetery in our back garden!R.I.P Goldy ( you had a good innings at 5 weeks)R.I.P Silvy and Bronzy.
Goimg on hols to get over our loss, and then off to get the water checked, and us checked by the Royal Society for the Protection of Goldfish.The daughter at this moment in time, never wants a goldfish again.Great birthday present that was,posh tank hardly used,3 now deceased fish, and now 3
bunches of 3 quid flowers to make her feel better.I can probably answer this one, if you answer a couple of questions first:
Do you have a filter? (Not a bubble maker - an actual filter, with filter media.)
If so, how long have you had it?
How often do you do water changes, and how much?
When you do water changes, do you use some sort of dechlorinator?
What size is the tank?
You need a filter because it hoovers up the crap - which contains ammonia. Ammonia in anything other than minute quantities is harmful to fish, and will sooner or later kill them off. Nitrifying bacteria colonise the filter media after awhile - these break the ammonia down into nitrite (still harmful) and other bacteria break that down into nitrate (only harmful in big quantities.) All that good bacteria is killed off by chlorine in the water supply, hence the need for dechlor.
Alot of people are given bad advice about fishkeeping, so I'd be very surprised if you
a) have a suitable filter
b) do weekly water changes
c) using dechlorinated water
On the off chance you do all of the above, then get a DECENT testing kit - not a cheap and cheerful one, they're notoriously inaccurate (you want a liquid drop based testing kit, not strips) that tests for Ammonia, Nitrite and Nitrate. API do a very good one for about £20. Or you can take samples into your local fish shop (LFS) who will test your water for a few quid. If you plan on keeping the fish alive for any length of time, buy the kit. If you opt to take samples into your LFS, get them to give you the readings (all numerical) and post up on here.
Or alternatively stick a post in tropical fish emergencies section of this forum (don't be put off by the fact its tropical, the advice will be good anyway.)
http://www.fishforums.net/
HTH
Do you have a filter? (Not a bubble maker - an actual filter, with filter media.)
If so, how long have you had it?
How often do you do water changes, and how much?
When you do water changes, do you use some sort of dechlorinator?
What size is the tank?
You need a filter because it hoovers up the crap - which contains ammonia. Ammonia in anything other than minute quantities is harmful to fish, and will sooner or later kill them off. Nitrifying bacteria colonise the filter media after awhile - these break the ammonia down into nitrite (still harmful) and other bacteria break that down into nitrate (only harmful in big quantities.) All that good bacteria is killed off by chlorine in the water supply, hence the need for dechlor.
Alot of people are given bad advice about fishkeeping, so I'd be very surprised if you
a) have a suitable filter
b) do weekly water changes
c) using dechlorinated water
On the off chance you do all of the above, then get a DECENT testing kit - not a cheap and cheerful one, they're notoriously inaccurate (you want a liquid drop based testing kit, not strips) that tests for Ammonia, Nitrite and Nitrate. API do a very good one for about £20. Or you can take samples into your local fish shop (LFS) who will test your water for a few quid. If you plan on keeping the fish alive for any length of time, buy the kit. If you opt to take samples into your LFS, get them to give you the readings (all numerical) and post up on here.
Or alternatively stick a post in tropical fish emergencies section of this forum (don't be put off by the fact its tropical, the advice will be good anyway.)
http://www.fishforums.net/
- *Edited to add:
HTH
Edited by tenohfive on Tuesday 7th July 22:05
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