Too many models!

[simpo two]

This is getting out of hand, I can't keep up. Every time I log on there's another TVR model a bit different from the last one.

In about a year there's been:

T350C - OK, I can grasp that one.
T350T - as above but with funny roof panels
T400 - as above but with bigger engine
T440 - as above but with bigger engine
T440R - as above but with bigger engine and an 'R' on the end.
T550 - as above but with bigger engine
Sagaris - as above but with extra slots pack
Typhon - probably one of the above but not sure

R&D is great but they ought to pick one!

[Podie]

It's TVR's rolling development.

440/550 is now Typhon..
T350C and T - not much between them really... just an option.
Tamora... roofless T350
Sagaris - Another T350 variant...


Sorry mate, don't see the fuss.

[jeremyc]

simpo two said:

T350C - OK, I can grasp that one. T350T - as above but with funny roof panels T400 - as above but with bigger engine T440 - as above but with bigger engine T440R - as above but with bigger engine and an 'R' on the end. T550 - as above but with bigger engine Sagaris - as above but with extra slots pack Typhon - probably one of the above but not sure

T400/T440/T440R/Typhon are one and the same (the model previously known as Tuscan R), but not the same as the T350C/T.

T550 has certainly never officially been talked about, and is probably the product of enthusiastic PH gossip.

So, to summarise for you:
T350C/T - road going coupe based on Tamora chassis
Sagaris - race derivative of T350 to provide homologation for TVR Challenge & British GT Cup class.
Typhon - full monty carbon fibre road-going LeMans racer.

Easy eh - what's the problem.

[p7ulg]

A constantly changing range is to be commended bearing mind the size of TVR.But dissapointing if you have just shelled out a lot cash on the latest model for it to be superceeded a few months latter.

[Podie]

p7ulg said:

A constantly changing range is to be commended bearing mind the size of TVR.But dissapointing if you have just shelled out a lot cash on the latest model for it to be superceeded a few months latter.

Bit like buying a PC then...

[bridgdav]

I would see this as a concern...

The company I work for went through something similar a few years ago, we were launching new machines at the same rate.

What this gave was a very thin spread of resources and support facilities.

Recently we have rationalised our product range to focus more on the customer and their needs..

We do however develop innovative and novel if you call it that products for niche markets where there is a difinitive requirement.

Where is TVR's focus..??

AIMHO

[jeremyc]

bridgdav said:

Where is TVR's focus..??

The Speed Six engine in a chassis based on that of the Tuscan. It is relatively easy to wrap different GRP bodies and interiors around this platform.

Tamora, Tuscan, T350 & Sagaris all share the same basic chassis and engine. Typhon has a further development of the same chassis.

Clearly the AJP8 and Cerbera are't long for this world....

[M@H]

jeremyc said:

T550 has certainly never officially been talked about, and is probably the product of enthusiastic PH gossip.

Not just gossip, it was actually listed for sale on the TVR DE (www.tvrdeutschland.de/) Site complete with spec as an official model for a while.. however it mysteriously vanished one day..

Cheers
Matt.

>> Edited by M@H on Friday 12th December 11:46

[simpo two]

Thanks JeremyC for clearing that up succinctly. Seems that half the problem is caused by them announcing a model with a number, then later naming it. It just doubles the confusion. A useful dividing line, too, would be between road cars and racing cars.

bridgdav said:

I would see this as a concern... What this gave was a very thin spread of resources and support facilities. AIMHO

I do think that TVR must be stretching themselves to produce so many variants, especially when a high proportion of them never really make it to see daylight. Racing can't be cheap either.

I was criticisng Jaguar for making beautiful concept cars but never putting them into production. TVR seem to do the reverse - every design thought appears in a handful of cars before it's repaced by the next. Or so it seems.

One point that might concern TVR, but won't, is that I'm a more-than-enthusiastic and educated TVR owner and follower of PH, and I can't keep up with the plot. Joe Possible-Buyer has no chance.

If you've got a bag of diamonds, feed them into the market slowly - don't flood it!

[cosmoschick]

simpo two said:

...there's another TVR model a bit different from the last one.

You wouldn't be referring to the one with afterburners on her backside by any chance!!!!!

[simpo two]

cosmoschick said:

You wouldn't be referring to the one with afterburners on her backside by any chance!!!!!

Dearest CC, I've only seen you from one angle but it was jolly nice. A timeless TVR model I'm sure :blush: though are you more expensive to run than a Griff?

[mustard]

cosmoschick said:

simpo two said: ...there's another TVR model a bit different from the last one. You wouldn't be referring to the one with afterburners on her backside by any chance!!!!!

Well TVR have always claimed they make HOT models!

[mustard]

simpo two said:

cosmoschick said: You wouldn't be referring to the one with afterburners on her backside by any chance!!!!! Dearest CC, I've only seen you from one angle but it was jolly nice. A timeless TVR model I'm sure :blush: though are you more expensive to run than a Griff?

[cosmoschick]

simpo two said:

...though are you more expensive to run than a Griff?

Probably, but it's worth every penny IMHO

[simpo two]

There goes the thread!

Actually, just dragging it back on course... I don't think there's been a T480W yet.

(aside) Oh, that was yesterday? I'm sorry, I missed it. T490Z? Discontinued at 10am this morning you say? ....gaaah


PS: Why can't I get the word 'rump' out of my mind?

[mustard]

There are no two TVR's exactly the same, so they say, The CC is one of the rarest models!

[Podie]

simpo two said:

One point that might concern TVR, but won't, is that I'm a more-than-enthusiastic and educated TVR owner and follower of PH, and I can't keep up with the plot. Joe Possible-Buyer has no chance.

I see your point... but Joe Public only gets to know when the models hit the streets (as that is when they see them)... it's only the hardcore fans that keep looking at all the prototypes.

..and if you can't keep up, it's related to the fact that you're getting on a bit!

[simpo two]

Podie said:

I see your point... but Joe Public only gets to know when the models hit the streets (as that is when they see them)... it's only the hardcore fans that keep looking at all the prototypes.

True, I hadn't seen them as prototypes or mere concept cars. Have to let it all shake out I guess.

Podie said:

..and if you can't keep up, it's related to the fact that you're getting on a bit!

Never! I just keep some brain spare for non-TVR matters, thou dissembling hasty-witted codpiece!

[Alf Essex]

Hey who else can make 'true' sports cars at half the price of other manufactures and offer such wide choice!! Long may it continue with such variety....

Alan.

[Swilly]

To clarify TVR's model range in the simplest terms:

Monster engine front-mid, rear wheel drive, big zorsts and lots of bloodcurdling-screaming on full chat.

Simple.