I'm going to rip your heart out
I'm going to rip your heart out
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HRG.

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72,863 posts

261 months

Friday 3rd July 2009
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Inspired by someone's recent sticky demise, what would happen if your heart was actually ripped out. Obviously at first your brain wouldn't realise there had been a catastrophic systems failure so it'd still be there, sending messages out to the pump to pump faster etc...

But how long would it actually take to die?

Options for the loss of other vital organs such as lungs are also welcome if the discussion gets stale.


Plotloss

67,280 posts

292 months

Friday 3rd July 2009
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You'd exist for as long as your brain could survive without oxygen, so not long.

I guess you'd be lucid and able to view the entire thing until the point you died.

Man-At-Arms

5,916 posts

201 months

Friday 3rd July 2009
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good bit in the film Layer Cake, where someones heart is 'boiled' with an iron

bet that didn't take long to go !

EINSIGN

5,628 posts

268 months

Friday 3rd July 2009
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Mr Trophy

6,811 posts

225 months

Friday 3rd July 2009
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Try it and let us know how you get on

sleep envy

62,260 posts

271 months

Friday 3rd July 2009
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neighbour blowing smoke over the fence again?

Dupont666

22,489 posts

214 months

Friday 3rd July 2009
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some other site said:
There were experiments conducted with those who were beheaded by a guillotine, coming out to something like 30 seconds consciousness post-separation to the extent that the disembodied head would react to stimuli.

This situation doesn't really apply to heart removal. Keep in mind, there are people who have lived with a still heart, surviving solely on the muscle contractions of arteries to circulate blood. Since the great vessels at the heart would be open in the case of a removal, the victim would bleed out very quickly, but the muscle contractions of the Carotid artery feeding the brain would keep the brain supplied with blood for a little while until blood pressure was no longer sufficient for blood flow to take place.

So, probably about a minute until the heartless one couldn't respond to stimuli and an unknown amount of time until consciousness faded and stimuli could no longer be sensed.

If, on the other hand, the great vessels were instantly connected in such a way as to permit normal blood flow and zero blood loss, the contractions of arteries would allow the heartless one to live much longer, especially if they laid down to take the vertical pumping load away (the amount of energy required to pump blood from the bottoms of your feet to the top of your scalp is amazing).

evenflow

8,839 posts

304 months

Friday 3rd July 2009
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On a related note, is there any truth in those people-still-blink-after-being-guillotined stories?

Dupont666

22,489 posts

214 months

Friday 3rd July 2009
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evenflow said:
On a related note, is there any truth in those people-still-blink-after-being-guillotined stories?
Glad you took the time to read my post before writing that... well done

shakotan

10,849 posts

218 months

Friday 3rd July 2009
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Dupont666 said:
evenflow said:
On a related note, is there any truth in those people-still-blink-after-being-guillotined stories?
Glad you took the time to read my post before writing that... well done
Note the time of his posting, compared to yours. Your reply probably wasn't even submitted when he was typing his...

Dupont666

22,489 posts

214 months

Friday 3rd July 2009
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shakotan said:
Dupont666 said:
evenflow said:
On a related note, is there any truth in those people-still-blink-after-being-guillotined stories?
Glad you took the time to read my post before writing that... well done
Note the time of his posting, compared to yours. Your reply probably wasn't even submitted when he was typing his...
Details.... Details... hehe

HRG.

Original Poster:

72,863 posts

261 months

Friday 3rd July 2009
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Mr Trophy said:
Try it and let us know how you get on
Bloke in BB beat me to it...

elster

17,517 posts

232 months

Friday 3rd July 2009
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HRG. said:
Mr Trophy said:
Try it and let us know how you get on
Bloke in BB beat me to it...
Huh?

HRG.

Original Poster:

72,863 posts

261 months

Friday 3rd July 2009
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elster said:
HRG. said:
Mr Trophy said:
Try it and let us know how you get on
Bloke in BB beat me to it...
Huh?
An untimely motorcycle related demise involving a heart, some ribs, a shoulder and a spleen.

Don't make me go into the gory details...

elster

17,517 posts

232 months

Friday 3rd July 2009
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HRG. said:
elster said:
HRG. said:
Mr Trophy said:
Try it and let us know how you get on
Bloke in BB beat me to it...
Huh?
An untimely motorcycle related demise involving a heart, some ribs, a shoulder and a spleen.

Don't make me go into the gory details...
Sounds nasty, you can keep the details thanks. I have just got my egg and soldiers ready.

Menguin

3,780 posts

243 months

Friday 3rd July 2009
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HRG. said:
elster said:
HRG. said:
Mr Trophy said:
Try it and let us know how you get on
Bloke in BB beat me to it...
Huh?
An untimely motorcycle related demise involving a heart, some ribs, a shoulder and a spleen.

Don't make me go into the gory details...
That happened in Big Brother? I knew I should have watched this one.

Pesty

42,655 posts

278 months

Friday 3rd July 2009
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Dupont666 said:
shakotan said:
Dupont666 said:
evenflow said:
On a related note, is there any truth in those people-still-blink-after-being-guillotined stories?
Glad you took the time to read my post before writing that... well done
Note the time of his posting, compared to yours. Your reply probably wasn't even submitted when he was typing his...
Details.... Details... hehe
also the French beheading experiments are widely regarded as being rubish anyway. well thats what QI said and thats where i get all my facts from.

Anyway wouldnt the pain of having your heart ripped out overload your brain anyway and cause unconciousness?

Kuroblack350

1,388 posts

222 months

Friday 3rd July 2009
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I'd suggest the almost immediate loss of pressure would lead to black out, quickly followed by exsanguination in seconds smile

evenflow

8,839 posts

304 months

Friday 3rd July 2009
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shakotan said:
Dupont666 said:
evenflow said:
On a related note, is there any truth in those people-still-blink-after-being-guillotined stories?
Glad you took the time to read my post before writing that... well done
Note the time of his posting, compared to yours. Your reply probably wasn't even submitted when he was typing his...
^ What he said.


mechsympathy

57,093 posts

277 months

Friday 3rd July 2009
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Pesty said:
also the French beheading experiments are widely regarded as being rubish anyway. well thats what QI said and thats where i get all my facts from.
yesAnd arteries aren't muscular and don't contract, which throws the rest of Dupont's quote into doubt too.

Kuroblack350 said:
I'd suggest the almost immediate loss of pressure would lead to black out, quickly followed by exsanguination in seconds smile
The bleeding would be slowed as there's no pressure though.

The blood remaining within the brain would still contain oxygen to supply the brain cells. But if you think how swiftly someone can be rendered unconscious with a strangle hold, and bear in mind that that's despite the brain continuing to receive some supply via smaller arteries at the back of the neck. The brain uses a lot of oxygen so unconsciousness would come quickly.