Honda Axis
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fuoriserie

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4,560 posts

293 months

Friday 3rd July 2009
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V8 GRF

7,298 posts

234 months

Friday 3rd July 2009
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fuoriserie said:
I'd suggest there's a good reason for that, I never want to see it again.

It looks like the love child of a greenhouse and a ride-on lawnmower.... frown

eddie1980

419 posts

212 months

Friday 3rd July 2009
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There is no way an S2000 can ever be so broken that is the best option for it!

Arthur Jackson

2,111 posts

254 months

Saturday 4th July 2009
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I'm intrigued.

The power of the S2000 in a lighter body..
and yet already two people posting here are worried about how it looks. confused

dugt

1,657 posts

231 months

Sunday 5th July 2009
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Arthur Jackson said:
I'm intrigued.

The power of the S2000 in a lighter body..
and yet already two people posting here are worried about how it looks. confused
people might see you in it though boxedin

V8 GRF

7,298 posts

234 months

Sunday 5th July 2009
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Arthur Jackson said:
I'm intrigued.

The power of the S2000 in a lighter body..
and yet already two people posting here are worried about how it looks. confused
Honda S2000 240bhp@8300 and Torque 153lbs@7500 weight 1535kg = 160bhp/ton (Pretty nice styling)

TVR Griffith 300bhp@5475 and Torque 310lbs@4750 weight 1035kg = 290bhp/ton (design classic)
(My car, dyno sheet to prove figures)

Axis same performance figures lets say weight down to 1200kg = 200bhp/ton (looks like a greenhouse)

Point is a car doesn't have to be ugly to perform

Be intrigued no more.smile

Arthur Jackson

2,111 posts

254 months

Sunday 5th July 2009
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V8 GRF said:
Honda S2000 240bhp@8300 and Torque 153lbs@7500 weight 1535kg = 160bhp/ton (Pretty nice styling)

TVR Griffith 300bhp@5475 and Torque 310lbs@4750 weight 1035kg = 290bhp/ton (design classic)
(My car, dyno sheet to prove figures)

Axis same performance figures lets say weight down to 1200kg = 200bhp/ton (looks like a greenhouse)

Point is a car doesn't have to be ugly to perform

Be intrigued no more.smile
No, I'm now confused.

Is the S2000 running gear stupidly heavy?? 1200kgs looks much too much for that Axis thing.

Secondly, so 290bhp/tonne in one of the dullest looking sportscars in modern history or in excess of 200bhp/tonne in a car that looks plain crazy, BUT which you can't see when you're driving it.

You see I think cars are made to be driven and if they look nice it's a bonus, but really no big deal. Personally I think that TVR have made some 'questionable' designs (of which the Griffith certainly isn't one!), but they are (relatively) cheap and certainly perform so it's all good!
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PS. If it was me I'd junk more of the interior and make sure I was down to 900kgs max....


Paul Drawmer

5,123 posts

291 months

Sunday 5th July 2009
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I think it looks very interesting. Someone has made a road legal car out of an S2000 write-off. It looks as if very little of the original bodywork was usable, but I'm guessing that much of the inner skin of body shell and the suspension and drive train has been retained. The whole of the passenger compartment and front screen looks untouched. So the builder has worked a new body onto the original skin. I think the externally braced sides are probably structural to replace stiffness lost when the old cills were removed, and integration of the rear roll hoop looks neat.

The quality of the work looks fine, the looks are due to the builder staying away from complex curves. Yes; its looks are challenging, but I reckon its a fine example of wreck reclamation, and I think the builder has done a damn fine job.

I hope he pops up and says "Hello".

Edited for apostrophe misuse

Edited by Paul Drawmer on Sunday 5th July 09:36

suthol

3,768 posts

258 months

Sunday 5th July 2009
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The best S2000 rebody full stop Skelta

Love or loath the lines, this is an incredible car that runs rings around Porkers and Lambos.

Arthur Jackson

2,111 posts

254 months

Sunday 5th July 2009
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Paul Drawmer said:
I think it looks very interesting........
Paul,
The advert mentions a 'bespoke chassis, so I think it's more of an 'exoskeletal' effort with some panelling. I agree with everything else you said though!

Arthur Jackson

2,111 posts

254 months

Sunday 5th July 2009
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suthol said:
The best S2000 rebody full stop Skelta
Vile.
It's from the 'melted plastic' school of car 'design' so beloved by kids in Corsas.
People with pretensions of car design should look at the work of the Italians and Brits in particular and work to the 'less is more' mantra, in my opinion. TVRs are just on the edge and most are fabulously clean designs. The Sagaris barely got away with the 'styling-for-the-sake-of-it' look, the Skelta really doesn't. It's one step away from the Avelle GT.......
Incidentally, I think Paul Drawmer's car is beautiful. I have a friend who drives one and it's a stunning bit of work.

Paul Drawmer

5,123 posts

291 months

Sunday 5th July 2009
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suthol said:
The best S2000 rebody full stop Skelta
I know I said the Axis was 'Challenging', but the Skelta defines Fugly.

V8 GRF

7,298 posts

234 months

Sunday 5th July 2009
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Paul Drawmer said:
suthol said:
The best S2000 rebody full stop Skelta
I know I said the Axis was 'Challenging', but the Skelta defines Fugly.
That Skelta almost wants to make me apologise for calling the Axis ugly.... hehe

Re the figures I posted, the torque is the figure you should be looking at not the pointless bhp figures being created at a screaming 7500rpm.


Furyblade_Lee

4,114 posts

248 months

Sunday 5th July 2009
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There are a few Fury's and Westfields with S2000 power, 575kgs wet, 400+bhp per ton. Thats what to do with your S2000 bits.

Edited by Furyblade_Lee on Sunday 5th July 16:21

Arthur Jackson

2,111 posts

254 months

Sunday 5th July 2009
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So the Honda bits aren't particularly heavy then Lee??

V8 GRF

7,298 posts

234 months

Sunday 5th July 2009
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Hey don't go off my calculations about the weight of the car. I yhought it was based on the S2000 chassis, I didn't read the ad, the pictures where enough for me smile

I'd assume it'll weigh considerably less than I guessed unless it's got really large section chassis tubes/rails.