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Peter Ward said:
I saw them on sale in Germany this week, billed as anti-dog protection. This was in a shop with very realistic-looking dummy firearms so perhaps not the best indication of what's legal....
I pity the police trying to decide in a split second whether a gun is a danger or not.
really?
thats interesting, as in germany (obviously not now then
) games were banned from having blood in them (had to be green). arcade games with little toy guns were banned and so i assumed such replicas etc would also be banned! learn something new everyday and all that..
Peter Ward said:I know from experience that I (would) have no hesitation in shooting if someone pointed at me anything that looked like a firearm. I have the greatest sympathy for the ARUs, etc., in the (instant) choices they sometime (might) have to make, between firing and holding fire - Streaky
... This was in a shop with very realistic-looking dummy firearms so perhaps not the best indication of what's legal....
I pity the police trying to decide in a split second whether a gun is a danger or not.
streaky said:
... This was in a shop with very realistic-looking dummy firearms so perhaps not the best indication of what's legal....
I pity the police trying to decide in a split second whether a gun is a danger or not.
I know from experience that I (would) have no hesitation in shooting if someone pointed at me anything that looked like a firearm. I have the greatest sympathy for the ARUs, etc., in the (instant) choices they sometime (might) have to make, between firing and holding fire - Streaky
yea they got a great record of shooting pepole for f all
outlaw said:Outlaw - if you've never been in that position ...
Peter Ward said:
... This was in a shop with very realistic-looking dummy firearms so perhaps not the best indication of what's legal....
I pity the police trying to decide in a split second whether a gun is a danger or not.
I know from experience that I (would) have no hesitation in shooting if someone pointed at me anything that looked like a firearm. I have the greatest sympathy for the ARUs, etc., in the (instant) choices they sometime (might) have to make, between firing and holding fire - Streaky
yea they got a great record of shooting pepole for f all
I have had people shoot at me (I have two scars to prove it). I have been blown up and the subject of a kidnap attempt. All pretty scary stuff. In the midst of a fire-fight on a Colombian airstrip (between God knows whom) I had a Browning Hi-power in my hand and was defending my turf (well, sack-truck actually!) ... so I can speak to the situation from a position of personal experience (don't ask!).
If someone I had reason to suspect was armed with a deadly weapon and pointed it in my direction, or that of a colleague, or a member of the public, I would be back on that airstrip ripping through a magazine like a Playboy addict gagging for the centrefold. But I'm not a British copper.
The restraint that the police have exercised in this country when faced with deadly situations is highly commendable. It is indeed regrettable when the innocent get killed, but holding a plastic gun or hoisting a cricket bat to the shoulder like a rifle (especially in the dark) and pointing it at an armed officer is tantamount to committing suicide in my book.
And the real tragedy comes when an officer is pilloried for shooting someone when faced with one of those sorts of situations. In a catalogue of 'punishments' they get locked up, lose their jobs, have nervous breakdowns, ... and all for doing the job they've been trained to do. What a society!
Streaky
The English/Welsh (I know nothing about Scotish police)police have the best record for deaths in similar countries in Europe where police are also regularly armed. And much, much better than the USA.
There have been mistakes in this country but you will never, ever, eradicate them. The English/Welsh method of training a specialist squad for firearms duties is the way to ensure that the number of errors is limited.
Our police might not be perfect, but in safe firearms use there are few other countries who are our equal. You will never get perfection, but at least accept that mistakes can happen. The courts, of course, don't, but that's no excuse for the rest of us.
There have been mistakes in this country but you will never, ever, eradicate them. The English/Welsh method of training a specialist squad for firearms duties is the way to ensure that the number of errors is limited.
Our police might not be perfect, but in safe firearms use there are few other countries who are our equal. You will never get perfection, but at least accept that mistakes can happen. The courts, of course, don't, but that's no excuse for the rest of us.
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