Have Brawn GP got new front wing?
Have Brawn GP got new front wing?
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Sway

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223 months

Friday 3rd July 2009
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Looking through the FoS threads here after going today.

Didn't see the F1 Paddock as I'm saving that for tomorrow with my little 'un, but here's a photo from the pics thread of the Brawn stand and it looks to have a far more complex front wing arrangement (extra horizontal planes and a strange triangular deflector near the centre), is this new? If new, what difference would it give?



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Edited by Sway on Friday 3rd July 20:59

optimax sniffer

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244 months

Friday 3rd July 2009
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I expect that it is a early design, can't see them putting a new design on display for everyone to see.

Probably take 5 minutes for someone to prove me wrong biggrin

stifler

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217 months

Friday 3rd July 2009
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Hill climb spec? Going for the record? wink

Sway

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Friday 3rd July 2009
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optimax sniffer said:
I expect that it is a early design, can't see them putting a new design on display for everyone to see.

Probably take 5 minutes for someone to prove me wrong biggrin
Good point, although it would seem, to my untrained eye, to potentially help with the lack of heat in the tyres. Although that triangular deflector does look a bit crude...

Sway

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Friday 3rd July 2009
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stifler said:
Hill climb spec? Going for the record? wink
Not allowed to run apparently, due to (I assume) the anti testing rules....

Although I am told that Toyota ran their current car....scratchchin

zac510

5,546 posts

235 months

Friday 3rd July 2009
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They used those triangular things on the inside of the endplate a bit in the last few years. It seemed like a different variation upon the big wings that went all the way across the top of the main elements. But less common this year, presume they're not wanting for front downforce so much this year.

Miss Pitstop

4,289 posts

231 months

Saturday 4th July 2009
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Sway said:
stifler said:
Hill climb spec? Going for the record? wink
Not allowed to run apparently, due to (I assume) the anti testing rules....
How ridiculous! (if your assumptions are true!)

Usually at FOS it's a load of tyre burning & show boating for the crowds, the stuff they aren't allowed to do at a race weekend (unless you're Lewis @ Silverstone!!)

thestig84

246 posts

218 months

Saturday 4th July 2009
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Thats the old wing they started the season with.

Dilligaf10

2,431 posts

239 months

Saturday 4th July 2009
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Commentator said yesterday that they were all 2009 cars running yesterday due to anti-testing regs, Brawn car was a static display only because of this.

Excellent time was had by Mrs D and I as first timers. She is already badgering to get tickets for the Revival. To anyone who has never been to F o S, do it, something for everyone, relaxed and everyone was so friendly and helpful even down to where the best places to sit and what to do first before the crowds.

Thanks again for the initial heads up Paolo on the Sunday Times competition and also to The Sunday Times for the tickets.

team underdog

938 posts

258 months

Saturday 4th July 2009
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Anyone know why donuts are banned at Goodwood these days? Leave's very few options for "showboating" other than straightline burnouts... which get boring quite quickly.

heebeegeetee

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277 months

Saturday 4th July 2009
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team underdog said:
Anyone know why donuts are banned at Goodwood these days? Leave's very few options for "showboating" other than straightline burnouts... which get boring quite quickly.
One of the Nascars did a burnout from start to finish just about smile, was sideways the whole way it seemed. The driver said he intended to finish those tyres off over the weekend.

freedman

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236 months

Saturday 4th July 2009
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Sway said:
stifler said:
Hill climb spec? Going for the record? wink
Although I am told that Toyota ran their current car....scratchchin
08 car, like all of the others

Sway

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223 months

Saturday 4th July 2009
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team underdog said:
Anyone know why donuts are banned at Goodwood these days? Leave's very few options for "showboating" other than straightline burnouts... which get boring quite quickly.
General reason is it is Lord March's drive, and the best place is just outside his house....

However, like anything, there's a degree of judgement on it, if the driver isn't deliberately spinning it up on the grass, and is merely indulging in some fun that went a bit off then they are usually allowed back!

SamHH

5,078 posts

245 months

Monday 6th July 2009
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team underdog said:
Anyone know why donuts are banned at Goodwood these days? Leave's very few options for "showboating" other than straightline burnouts... which get boring quite quickly.
I didn't think they were banned?

StevieBee

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284 months

Monday 6th July 2009
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team underdog said:
Anyone know why donuts are banned at Goodwood these days? Leave's very few options for "showboating" other than straightline burnouts... which get boring quite quickly.
There's no ban.

IIRC the issue is that recent F1 cars require different engine mapping to allow the driver to perform them as the anti-stall system doesn't correlate front wheel angle with engine revs and so thinks the car is spinning, pulling in the clutch to avoid a stall. This is overcome by selecting a different map setting but I guess would be difficult to drive "normally". That's why when you see a car spin a 180 in a race, there's a delay as the driver resets the setting to enable him to do a quick half donut and then again, before he sets off after the others.

When Lewis Hamilton did a few demo laps at the DTM event at Brands last year, he failed dismally as the settings weren't correct.