Green belt to garden?
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Been to look at a new build today and whilst the house is nice the garden as with most new builds is on the small side.
The house backs onto a corn field and we were wondering if (subject to the farmer selling) you can change green belt into garden without too much hassle?
We would have no plans on build anything other than a bit of decking.
Cheers
Russ
The house backs onto a corn field and we were wondering if (subject to the farmer selling) you can change green belt into garden without too much hassle?
We would have no plans on build anything other than a bit of decking.
Cheers
Russ
Pretty much a definite 'no'.
Even if the Planners were receptive to encroachment into the greenbelt (which is highly unlikely), they wouldn't allow one back garden to be extended in isolation, so you'd have to come to some sort of group arrangement with all the other plots whose gardens back on to the same field.
Even if the Planners were receptive to encroachment into the greenbelt (which is highly unlikely), they wouldn't allow one back garden to be extended in isolation, so you'd have to come to some sort of group arrangement with all the other plots whose gardens back on to the same field.
Sam_68 said:
Pretty much a definite 'no'.
Even if the Planners were receptive to encroachment into the greenbelt (which is highly unlikely), they wouldn't allow one back garden to be extended in isolation, so you'd have to come to some sort of group arrangement with all the other plots whose gardens back on to the same field.
That was what I was getting at. You'd have more chance if everyone on you're side of the estate wanted a 10m strip which would then take an even chunk of a field. They won't simply allow a one off extension.Even if the Planners were receptive to encroachment into the greenbelt (which is highly unlikely), they wouldn't allow one back garden to be extended in isolation, so you'd have to come to some sort of group arrangement with all the other plots whose gardens back on to the same field.
We have recently put forward an application for a change of use from greenbelt to formal garden. We negotiated a 15m deep strip of greenbelt land around a site. The council aren't overly happy although haven't said no as yet.
FlossyThePig said:
Even if you could convert into garden space how much would you be prepared to pay? Once a Land agent gets involved the cost can be an awful lot more that agricultural land including very restrictive covenants. Been there and decided it wasn't worth it.
Depends.As said above, we negotiated a 15m deep bit of land, totalling 0.5 acres for £25k. This was to be split between 4 homes so is a decent patch of garden for each (at £6.25k each).
russ_a said:
Been to look at a new build today and whilst the house is nice the garden as with most new builds is on the small side.
The house backs onto a corn field and we were wondering if (subject to the farmer selling) you can change green belt into garden without too much hassle?
We would have no plans on build anything other than a bit of decking.
Cheers
Russ
My dad did exactly this - there were about 6 houses in total that agreed.The house backs onto a corn field and we were wondering if (subject to the farmer selling) you can change green belt into garden without too much hassle?
We would have no plans on build anything other than a bit of decking.
Cheers
Russ
My dad paid about £1500 for ~20metres x ~10 metres (20 years ago).
Land was just farmland.
Edited by barney123 on Tuesday 7th July 08:42
It really isn't straightforward nowadays.
You'd probably need full planning permission for a change of use and, unless you classed it as paddock or an orchard, it is very unlikely that you'd get permission to change it to a garden area.
I've got a menage at the rear of my house. The house and gardens are residential. but the stables, two small paddocks and the menage are agricultural with very little chance of ever being made garden areas.
You'd probably need full planning permission for a change of use and, unless you classed it as paddock or an orchard, it is very unlikely that you'd get permission to change it to a garden area.
I've got a menage at the rear of my house. The house and gardens are residential. but the stables, two small paddocks and the menage are agricultural with very little chance of ever being made garden areas.
Thanks for the info,
An orchard sounds interesting, I wouldn't mind planting a few apple trees
There are 6 houses on the row, so not that many really. I might just give the planing department a call.
On a side not the current garden has a hedge that is around 3 meters high that is on the farmers land blocking the nice view over the fields.
I guess that I would just need to obtain the farmers permission to cut the hedge down to around 1m?
An orchard sounds interesting, I wouldn't mind planting a few apple trees
There are 6 houses on the row, so not that many really. I might just give the planing department a call.
On a side not the current garden has a hedge that is around 3 meters high that is on the farmers land blocking the nice view over the fields.
I guess that I would just need to obtain the farmers permission to cut the hedge down to around 1m?
Hobo said:
FlossyThePig said:
...the cost can be an awful lot more that agricultural land ...
...we negotiated a 15m deep bit of land, totalling 0.5 acres for £25k. 
The going rate for agricultural land is about £6.5K per acre round my way. I'd have been expecting about 4 acres for that price, so I'd say Flossy's comment still stands.
Davel said:
You'd probably need full planning permission for a change of use and, unless you classed it as paddock or an orchard, it is very unlikely that you'd get permission to change it to a garden area.
No 'probably' about it - Agricultural use to domestic garden definitely needs permission! And depending on the area, Planners can get really snotty about the precise use and definition of 'agricultural land' if you try to pull a flanker on them. It's also worth mentioning that 'Equestrian use' (ie. a paddock) is considered to be a quite separate and distinct category of use to agricultural.russ_a said:
I guess that I would just need to obtain the farmers permission to cut the hedge down to around 1m?
Yep. If it's on his land, definitely. You're allowed to cut back those parts of non-protected trees and shrubs that overhang your property, provided you offer the cuttings back to the owner of the land on which they are growing.If your plan to extend your gardens relies upon removal of said hedgerow, you also need to be aware of the Hedgerow Regulations 1997, which form part of the 1995 Environment Act. Guess what you can't do without seeking the written permission of your local Planning Authority.
Funny that as we are on exactly the same senario where we leave.
4 houses on the row and we have approached the farmer to buy a strip of aprox 250feet wide x 40 feet long and that works out aprox 1/4 of an acre. We have made an offer of £30.000 to him. That's 1 months ago and he is still hasen't gave us a definate answer. I do know that is there busiest time of the year so we are just waiting to see what will happen. We are aware that will be very unlikely to change it to garden use, but we all happy to keep it as a paddock use.
All houses are four bedroom houses and the gardens are tiny. We are thinking to do an extension but the tiny size of the garden that will be left after the extension will make the house very difficult to sale on a later date.
Will see.
4 houses on the row and we have approached the farmer to buy a strip of aprox 250feet wide x 40 feet long and that works out aprox 1/4 of an acre. We have made an offer of £30.000 to him. That's 1 months ago and he is still hasen't gave us a definate answer. I do know that is there busiest time of the year so we are just waiting to see what will happen. We are aware that will be very unlikely to change it to garden use, but we all happy to keep it as a paddock use.
All houses are four bedroom houses and the gardens are tiny. We are thinking to do an extension but the tiny size of the garden that will be left after the extension will make the house very difficult to sale on a later date.
Will see.
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