eBay's cry for help
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Seems they can dish it out but not take it. When they put their fees up effectively from 10% to 15%, we had to take it up the ass because they were a monopoly. Now read this:
eBay mailshot said:
eBay was built on a simple idea - that we could empower people by building a global trading platform where practically anyone could buy or sell practically anything. But that idea is now under threat from certain brand owners and manufacturers who are trying to turn back the clock and block the sale of their products on online marketplaces and other websites across the EU.
Ultimately, what is at stake is the right of sellers to compete
fairly in the wider online marketplace, and the right of buyers
to be able to access the best possible deals from the widest
possible selection of goods.
Some of these brand owners argue that their objective is to prevent the sale of counterfeits on eBay. But thanks to our work with 31,000 other rights owners, only 0.15% of listings last year were detected or reported as potentially counterfeit. The real aim of these brands is to block the sale of all their products on our site - regardless of whether such items are new or second-hand, genuine or fake. It's not just luxury items that are affected, but also everyday items like children's toys, electronic equipment, lawnmowers and pushchairs. And if we want to prevent other brand owners from following suit, we need to act now.
We are therefore calling on European policymakers to amend EU competition law to stop these unfair
trade practices. But we need your help to persuade them to take action. If you would like to join our campaign against online trade barriers, please sign our petition.
Regards,
Your eBay Team
Ultimately, what is at stake is the right of sellers to compete
fairly in the wider online marketplace, and the right of buyers
to be able to access the best possible deals from the widest
possible selection of goods.
Some of these brand owners argue that their objective is to prevent the sale of counterfeits on eBay. But thanks to our work with 31,000 other rights owners, only 0.15% of listings last year were detected or reported as potentially counterfeit. The real aim of these brands is to block the sale of all their products on our site - regardless of whether such items are new or second-hand, genuine or fake. It's not just luxury items that are affected, but also everyday items like children's toys, electronic equipment, lawnmowers and pushchairs. And if we want to prevent other brand owners from following suit, we need to act now.
We are therefore calling on European policymakers to amend EU competition law to stop these unfair
trade practices. But we need your help to persuade them to take action. If you would like to join our campaign against online trade barriers, please sign our petition.
Regards,
Your eBay Team
They still owe me £6 from a refund I had 2 years ago. It's only a small amount but apparently it's their policy not to actually give you your money back but to keep it on account "to use against your next listing". I'm sure if I owed them the £6 and said to them that I'd keep it on account to use when they next owe me money it would be a different story.
Good. I hope it cripples them.
Ebay has became far too big and far too powerful in the online auction sector. It has all but alienated people who wish to sell as a hobby or would like to start a small home based business. The site is now set up in such a way that virtually nobody without a lot of time and capital can trade on there anyway. Their seller protection policy allowing people to steal from you is rubbish, their response to complaints is useless, their security is so lax people can and do make fake accounts to steal goods, their fees have become stupidly high and the fact they are slowly banning sellers from charging P&P to increase their %age take have all contributed to lots of people I know closing their accounts.
Ebay has became far too big and far too powerful in the online auction sector. It has all but alienated people who wish to sell as a hobby or would like to start a small home based business. The site is now set up in such a way that virtually nobody without a lot of time and capital can trade on there anyway. Their seller protection policy allowing people to steal from you is rubbish, their response to complaints is useless, their security is so lax people can and do make fake accounts to steal goods, their fees have become stupidly high and the fact they are slowly banning sellers from charging P&P to increase their %age take have all contributed to lots of people I know closing their accounts.
Murray993 said:
They should talk to PayPal and get them to "resolve the issue".
eBay's pricing became so opaque that I closed my online store (selling r/c helciopter parts). Just wasn't worth the hassle as it took me four hours to figure out the pricing for a product to make sure I was going to break even.
Murray993 said:
They should talk to PayPal and get them to "resolve the issue".
OwenK said:
Oh no, you poor b
ds. Perhaps it's karma for absolutely exploiting your user base. Maybe it's for double- (or is it triple now?) dipping on every single auction. Perhaps it's for the feedback rubbish. Who knows - who cares? eBay's time is long past, I hope.
Absolutely.ds. Perhaps it's karma for absolutely exploiting your user base. Maybe it's for double- (or is it triple now?) dipping on every single auction. Perhaps it's for the feedback rubbish. Who knows - who cares? eBay's time is long past, I hope.Either it'll make them realise their business is not where they want it to be, or where it should be going (unlikely!).
Or it'll severely cripple them.
Either way it sounds like a happy outcome.
It's somewhat ironic considering they were basically pricing the normal seller from creating auctions off eBay and were basically making eBay a load of business auctions...
LukeBird said:
It's somewhat ironic considering they were basically pricing the normal seller from creating auctions off eBay and were basically making eBay a load of business auctions...
Yip, eBay is awash with multiple buy-it-now listings for cheap stuff being sold by bedroom box-sorters and small businesses, to the point that its original (great) function of selling unwanted items that you'd never be able to sell in the local paper, is all but gone.When listing some stuff ahead of a house move recently I was shocked to find a 10% fee at the end of listings, on top of listing fees and compulsory PayPal payment offered as an option. Needless to say even a marginal offer outside of ebay now warrants serious consideration. No wonder individuals are using them less, and their business model is moving in favour of the small trader.
I'd not use them at all, but gumtree is useless and filled with car-boot-sale types armed with 50p offers, and I haven't found anywhere else online that has the reach that ebay does.
Oh, so now they're "ours"?Sumone reopen QXL please. Is there another auction site we can use and as a seller try and create a small revenue from our second hand items.
I tried last night to sell some PC computer games, old ones like TOCA Race Driver and Sonic and Knuckles. Only wanted 50p each for them but eBay(now known to me as money grabbing barstewards or MGB's) wanted to charge me 10p for listing, 10% of the final value fee (say 10p for £1) and prevented me from charging a postage fee which is going for be 50p. Decided after listing 2 games that it wasnt worth the hassle and binned the stack of 10 games.
I tried last night to sell some PC computer games, old ones like TOCA Race Driver and Sonic and Knuckles. Only wanted 50p each for them but eBay(now known to me as money grabbing barstewards or MGB's) wanted to charge me 10p for listing, 10% of the final value fee (say 10p for £1) and prevented me from charging a postage fee which is going for be 50p. Decided after listing 2 games that it wasnt worth the hassle and binned the stack of 10 games.
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