Turbo Guage
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Sandcrook

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60 posts

211 months

Tuesday 7th July 2009
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I think I might be having a problem with the turbo guage.When the engine is off it reads just below zero but going through the revs it flickers from just over 0 to a minis reading not a plus .I am unfamiliar with these guages and turbos so can you help ?

The devil

2,152 posts

212 months

Tuesday 7th July 2009
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Sounds about right.

get yourself a nice long bit of road with sod all on it, stick it in third and plant it to the floor, should then briefly get up to full boost of 0.7 bar on a GTO-3

BobE

605 posts

210 months

Tuesday 7th July 2009
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I agree. From what I`ve seen not all gauges always go back exactly to zero when you stop the engine. Under `normal` steady driving conditions there is a vacuum in the inlet manifold so the gauge reads negative (typically about 0.5 bar). When you accelerate hard and let the revs go up the turbo boost comes on stream and the gauge should go positive and peak around 0.7 bar - or there abouts.

B13RYD

195 posts

209 months

Wednesday 8th July 2009
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Ours goes up to 1 bar, is this too much? If so what needs adjusting?

The devil

2,152 posts

212 months

Wednesday 8th July 2009
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B13RYD said:
Ours goes up to 1 bar, is this too much? If so what needs adjusting?
You have that yellow 2-5 from driven image don't you. Are they not a higher boost pressure?

Andy

mr2turbo300

406 posts

272 months

Wednesday 8th July 2009
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The devil said:
B13RYD said:
Ours goes up to 1 bar, is this too much? If so what needs adjusting?
You have that yellow 2-5 from driven image don't you. Are they not a higher boost pressure?

Andy
My take on it, but others here will probably come along and correct it...

I thought the standard 2.5s ones made 310 BHP @ .75 bar. With the 340 BHP offical factory map on, I think I remember Trevor posting that there was a temporary boost spike to .9 bar. If it is sustained at 1 bar then sounds like somebody has had it modded. If it is running the old ECU it has probably had the actuators changed or is leaking air on the actuator signal side of things (intentionally or not). If it has the later MBE ECU, then I think it can be done on the map, through an electronic boost controller.
Rob.

jimbooo

334 posts

216 months

Wednesday 8th July 2009
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mines the same. 2.5 gto, recently remapped by trevor and he confirmed that with electronic boost controller and 340bhp upgrade that it runs at around 1 bar. mine shoots to 1.4bar then settles instantlty at a sustained 1 bar.


when the engines not in bits all over a workshop floor that is!!! lol

brischi

133 posts

240 months

Wednesday 8th July 2009
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jimbooo said:
mines the same. 2.5 gto, recently remapped by trevor and he confirmed that with electronic boost controller and 340bhp upgrade that it runs at around 1 bar. mine shoots to 1.4bar then settles instantlty at a sustained 1 bar.


when the engines not in bits all over a workshop floor that is!!! lol


I do not understand this fact and electronic boost controller?

brischi

133 posts

240 months

Wednesday 8th July 2009
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hks?? blizt??apexi?? what is the best for the noble?

thanks

mr2turbo300

406 posts

272 months

Wednesday 8th July 2009
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brischi said:
jimbooo said:
mines the same. 2.5 gto, recently remapped by trevor and he confirmed that with electronic boost controller and 340bhp upgrade that it runs at around 1 bar. mine shoots to 1.4bar then settles instantlty at a sustained 1 bar.


when the engines not in bits all over a workshop floor that is!!! lol
I do not understand this fact and electronic boost controller?
I think all the cars that have the mbu ecu have an associated boost module which means the ECU can control the boost via the map (presumably by manipulating the pressure on the actuator feeds). Not sure what causes the overboost, but I assume it is the latency between the selected pressure being reached and the wastegate actually opening.
[All those that really understand this, feel free to correct as necessary]

Rob.

brischi

133 posts

240 months

Wednesday 8th July 2009
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in italy nobody nobody I remap the ECU .....

B13RYD

195 posts

209 months

Thursday 9th July 2009
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So is it likely to blow the engine up if it boosts to 1 bar?

Gadgeroonie

5,362 posts

265 months

Thursday 9th July 2009
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B13RYD said:
So is it likely to blow the engine up if it boosts to 1 bar?
yes - if it was not set up correctly

NobleGuy

7,133 posts

244 months

Friday 10th July 2009
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Can't imagine the turbos boosting to 1.4 even for a short time can do them much good either.

brischi

133 posts

240 months

Friday 10th July 2009
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hello to all I want to mount an apexi ....and ok? for no0ble 2.5
thanks