William Hague at Qs today

[Martial Arts Man]

What a statesman-like performance.

Very impressed by his measured tone today.

Shows us all what we're missing really.

Perhaps up there with the best of the PMs we will never have.

Edited by Martial Arts Man on Wednesday 8th July 12:34

[chippy17]

Martial Arts Man said:

What a statesman-like performance.

Very impressed by his measured tone today.

Show's us all what we're missing really.

Perhaps up there with the best of the PMs we will never have.

could not agree more, he would make a superb PM, a great shame

[ascayman]

should be pm.

[Asterix]

ascayman said:

should be pm.

There's plenty of time.

I believe he will, one day, become PM.

[Spiritual_Beggar]

Asterix said:

ascayman said:

should be pm.

There's plenty of time.

I believe he will, one day, become PM.

Hell, if he split today, and set-up his own party he'd get my vote. The man talks a lot of sense!

[ascayman]

Asterix said:

ascayman said:

should be pm.

There's plenty of time.

I believe he will, one day, become PM.

if he wasnt bald he'd already be in.

[Digga]

ascayman said:

Asterix said:

ascayman said:

should be pm.

There's plenty of time.

I believe he will, one day, become PM.

if he wasnt bald he'd already be in.

I personally have great respect for him, but I think the tone and cadence of his speach detracts from his 'populist' appeal. I know CMD's plummy tones are as posh if not posher, but he's got a more contemporary delivery and, yes, he also looks younger.

Sadly, to win political power in a democracy, you do have to pander to the plebs. Ideally, there would be another frontrunner with even more mass appeal than CMD - remember that to a Midland or Northern ear, the accent may sound markedly different than to your own.

[Murcielago_Boy]

He SHOULD be PM unlike that "lightweight" marshmallow Cameron. One of those people that is quite "obviously" intelligent (like Obama).

His time may come yet....

[Fittster]

Do you lot smoke a lot of drugs? None of you clearly remember just how bad a leader he was, it was clearly found that people won't vote for a party lead by William Hague. He's yesterday's man, along with Howard and IDS.

[Martial Arts Man]

Fittster said:

Do you lot smoke a lot of drugs? None of you clearly remember just how bad a leader he was, it was clearly found that people won't vote for a party lead by William Hague. He's yesterday's man, along with Howard and IDS.

A day is a long time in politics.....a number of years....well, anything can happen!

Howard and IDS are somewhat different to Hague though. One is a 1000 years old and the other is a "nothing".

[Leithen]

Hague's a great parliamentarian. Sadly that doesn't necessarily make him a great politician.

[Skii]

Fittster said:

Do you lot smoke a lot of drugs? None of you clearly remember just how bad a leader he was, it was clearly found that people won't vote for a party lead by William Hague. He's yesterday's man, along with Howard and IDS.

At that time people wouldn't vote Conservative, regardless of their leader, the UK had been seduced by B.Liar and his cronies and New Labour were very much revelling in their 'happy time' , the Conservatives had been murdered at the polling stations and anyone in the position of leading the Conservative party at that time was a lamb to the slaughter.

[Martial Arts Man]

Skii said:

Fittster said:

Do you lot smoke a lot of drugs? None of you clearly remember just how bad a leader he was, it was clearly found that people won't vote for a party lead by William Hague. He's yesterday's man, along with Howard and IDS.

At that time people wouldn't vote Conservative, regardless of their leader, the UK had been seduced by B.Liar and his cronies and New Labour were very much revelling in their 'happy time' , the Conservatives had been murdered at the polling stations and anyone in the position of leading the Conservative party at that time was a lamb to the slaughter.

Spot on.

Ordinary folk may have warmed to him better still during our current economic woes. He has gravitas.

[Digga]

Martial Arts Man said:

Skii said:

Fittster said:

Do you lot smoke a lot of drugs? None of you clearly remember just how bad a leader he was, it was clearly found that people won't vote for a party lead by William Hague. He's yesterday's man, along with Howard and IDS.

At that time people wouldn't vote Conservative, regardless of their leader, the UK had been seduced by B.Liar and his cronies and New Labour were very much revelling in their 'happy time' , the Conservatives had been murdered at the polling stations and anyone in the position of leading the Conservative party at that time was a lamb to the slaughter.

Spot on.

Ordinary folk may have warmed to him better still during our current economic woes. He has gravitas.

Underestimating (inverse) class snobbery has long been the achilles of the Cons. They should ask why it was that the populace were so seduced by BLiar.

I loathe the celeb culture that New Labia heralded as much as anyone, but it was undeniable popular. Gravitas and trust are hugely attractive and admirable qualities, but they need to be grounded in reality.

[FPC]

Gravitas personified:

[Fittster]

Skii said:

Fittster said:

Do you lot smoke a lot of drugs? None of you clearly remember just how bad a leader he was, it was clearly found that people won't vote for a party lead by William Hague. He's yesterday's man, along with Howard and IDS.

At that time people wouldn't vote Conservative, regardless of their leader, the UK had been seduced by B.Liar and his cronies and New Labour were very much revelling in their 'happy time' , the Conservatives had been murdered at the polling stations and anyone in the position of leading the Conservative party at that time was a lamb to the slaughter.

Was to decontaminate the brand so that people would vote for them. Something Hague wasn’t capable of doing.

Hague was find for blue rinse tories but he couldn’t appeal to the wider public.

[Fittster]

Martial Arts Man said:

Skii said:

Fittster said:

Do you lot smoke a lot of drugs? None of you clearly remember just how bad a leader he was, it was clearly found that people won't vote for a party lead by William Hague. He's yesterday's man, along with Howard and IDS.

At that time people wouldn't vote Conservative, regardless of their leader, the UK had been seduced by B.Liar and his cronies and New Labour were very much revelling in their 'happy time' , the Conservatives had been murdered at the polling stations and anyone in the position of leading the Conservative party at that time was a lamb to the slaughter.

Spot on.

Ordinary folk may have warmed to him better still during our current economic woes. He has gravitas.

People say that Major is a statesman these days, people say nice things about the dead.

[StevieBee]

Fittster said:

Do you lot smoke a lot of drugs? None of you clearly remember just how bad a leader he was, it was clearly found that people won't vote for a party lead by William Hague. He's yesterday's man, along with Howard and IDS.

I think you'll find that his biggest problem was that he didn't really have a party to lead and whoever had the job then would've ended up in the same boat.

A case of the right leader at the wrong time.

There has been much talk of him having a second stab at the leadership in the future.

[Incredible Sulk]

StevieBee said:

Fittster said:

Do you lot smoke a lot of drugs? None of you clearly remember just how bad a leader he was, it was clearly found that people won't vote for a party lead by William Hague. He's yesterday's man, along with Howard and IDS.

I think you'll find that his biggest problem was that he didn't really have a party to lead and whoever had the job then would've ended up in the same boat.

A case of the right leader at the wrong time.

There has been much talk of him having a second stab at the leadership in the future.

I think you are wrong. His biggest mistake was to take the party careering off into the long grass of Right Wing Politics. I think he now realises that was a bad, bad decision. At least Cameron is trying very hard to win the centre ground, which is where most elections are won and lost.

[Fittster]

StevieBee said:

Fittster said:

Do you lot smoke a lot of drugs? None of you clearly remember just how bad a leader he was, it was clearly found that people won't vote for a party lead by William Hague. He's yesterday's man, along with Howard and IDS.

I think you'll find that his biggest problem was that he didn't really have a party to lead and whoever had the job then would've ended up in the same boat.

A case of the right leader at the wrong time.

There has been much talk of him having a second stab at the leadership in the future.

How would he ever overcome the problem as being seen as a leader who failed and had to resign?

"On the morning of Labour's second consecutive landslide victory in the 2001 general election, Hague stated:"we have not been able to persuade a majority, or anything approaching a majority, that we are yet the alternative government that they need." In the 2001 election the Conservative Party had gained only one seat from their disastrous 1997 election. Following the defeat, Hague resigned as leader, thus becoming the first full Conservative Party leader not to have become Prime Minister."

He's had his time and it didn't work out.