CV identical to mine different name..... what to do?
CV identical to mine different name..... what to do?
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Dupont666

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22,074 posts

208 months

Wednesday 8th July 2009
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Got informed that a CV nigh on idenitcal to mine, similar experience in the same companies and same layout to mine.... Its on JobSite under the name of Daniel Gould, can anyone pull the telephone number or report it?

What are the repercussions of them doing that and is it legal and what can I do about it?

Know its a fake as he is supposed to have worked in the same team I have in a bank I worked for, the team was 5 big and I would have noticed if I hadnt talked to this Daniel for 3 years.

Goochie

5,722 posts

235 months

Wednesday 8th July 2009
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I suspect your CV has been cloned by a recruitment agent who wants to make their portfolio of job seekers look more impressive. You will finf that they also place false job ads in order to attract high flying candidates to submit a CV to the agency for the same reason.


Dupont666

Original Poster:

22,074 posts

208 months

Wednesday 8th July 2009
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Anything I can do other than scare them by ringing them about it?

Phone number is on its way to me now.

bogwoppit

705 posts

197 months

Wednesday 8th July 2009
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Surely there must be a way to have a bit of fun with them, and force them to admit it? biggrin

Ghisallo

1,165 posts

194 months

Wednesday 8th July 2009
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Your CV is a literary work and so it is subject to copyright which subsists automatically.

Given what the Goochie has said (and which I never knew happened) it might be good advice for people submitting CVs to agenices to explictily mark it copyright.


eddie1980

419 posts

204 months

Wednesday 8th July 2009
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Goochie said:
I suspect your CV has been cloned by a recruitment agent who wants to make their portfolio of job seekers look more impressive. You will finf that they also place false job ads in order to attract high flying candidates to submit a CV to the agency for the same reason.
Absolutely, I have a nice example of this behaviour, month or so back I spotted a job advertised that could only be a former employer. So as I get on very well with my old manager I called him up and asked what the deal was. He did not have a clue what I was talking about and was currently in the middle of redundancy's.

Things took a turn for the worse two days later when the one of the people loosing there job came in for the redundancy meeting holding a copy of the adverts and saying while the agency would not give them a name they had said it was based on the same road, and given the skill set required there was no doubt who it must be. One very tense meeting and a very angry call the the agency later it turned out they had copied word for word a genuine advert from over a year ago and were advertising for a job they had never recruited for and that did not currently exist.

Agency's == horrible horrible people, in fact if there is a decent one in the South Yorkshire/ North Lincolnshire area that knows what there doing with IT staff let me know!

Edited by eddie1980 on Wednesday 8th July 15:47

Dupont666

Original Poster:

22,074 posts

208 months

Wednesday 8th July 2009
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eddie1980 said:
Goochie said:
I suspect your CV has been cloned by a recruitment agent who wants to make their portfolio of job seekers look more impressive. You will finf that they also place false job ads in order to attract high flying candidates to submit a CV to the agency for the same reason.
Absolutely, I had a case the other month of spotting a job that could only be a former employer. So as I get on very well with my old manager I called him up and asked what the deal was. He did not have a clue what I was talking about and was currently in the middle of redundancy's. Things took a turn for the worse two days later when the one of the people loosing there job came in for the redundancy meeting holding a copy of the adverts and saying while the agency would not give them a name they had said it was based on the same road, and given the skill set required there was no doubt who it must be. One very tense meeting and a very angry call the the agency later it turned out they had copied word for word a genuine advert from over a year ago and were advertising for a job they had never recruited for and that did not currently exist.

Agency's == horrible horrible people, in fact if there is a decent one in the South Yorkshire/ North Lincolnshire area that knows what there doing with IT staff let me know!

Edited by eddie1980 on Wednesday 8th July 15:44
I swear I should set one up with a few IT staff and give the personal touch of not fking about and I would make a killing.

It would be so easy to weed out the bullstters that say stuff on their CVs and know fk all and actually being able to talk to the candidates and clients without having the issues of the recruiters having to ask you to repeat stuff cause you have used a term or jargon that they dont know as they are new to the job and learning.

So tempting

Goochie

5,722 posts

235 months

Wednesday 8th July 2009
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It is normally pretty easy to spot the fake adverts on the job websites - they're the ones that require an easily achievable skill set for slightly more money than every other job..... just the sort of thing that will attract hundreds of applicants to that agency.

Then, armed with hundreds of good CVs they've significantly increased their ability to fill a vacancy and claim their commision.

I've used agencies as both an applicant and an employer and can say that they are normally useless and occasionally infuriating. I never believe a word they say and dont trust them at all!

AB

18,478 posts

211 months

Wednesday 8th July 2009
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Leaving jobs on the website when the vacancy has been filled is another one!!!

So irritating.


wizbit

1,204 posts

203 months

Thursday 9th July 2009
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eddie1980 said:
Agency's == horrible horrible people, in fact if there is a decent one in the South Yorkshire/ North Lincolnshire area that knows what there doing with IT staff let me know!
Modis.
Highly recommend them.
Along with Hays and Preferred IT.

Modis have their office in sheffield, just behind griffin house (hsbc.)

Threatened to leave a company a few years back because the supplied agency I went with were pathetic. I heard modis also had a contract with the company, and so they agreed to move me onto their books.

Scawie

331 posts

224 months

Thursday 9th July 2009
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Ghisallo said:
Your CV is a literary work
I know mine is biggrin

XJSJohn

16,090 posts

235 months

Thursday 9th July 2009
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Scawie said:
Ghisallo said:
Your CV is a literary work
I know mine is biggrin
fiction?? hehe

BigAlinEmbra

1,629 posts

228 months

Thursday 9th July 2009
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bogwoppit said:
Surely there must be a way to have a bit of fun with them, and force them to admit it? biggrin
Like calling them up, and saying that you want to interview this outstanding candidate?

escargot

17,122 posts

233 months

Friday 10th July 2009
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We're not all that bad chaps.

eddie1980

419 posts

204 months

Friday 10th July 2009
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escargot said:
We're not all that bad chaps.
Mmmmm convince me!

Eddw86

742 posts

203 months

Friday 10th July 2009
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Goochie said:
Then, armed with hundreds of good CVs they've significantly increased their ability to fill a vacancy and claim their commision.

I've used agencies as both an applicant and an employer and can say that they are normally useless and occasionally infuriating. I never believe a word they say and dont trust them at all!
I wrote about this exact process in my graduate experiences thread. They had no concern for the cost in petrol, train tickets etc etc just wanted me to sign up. Most enraging.

Menguin

3,779 posts

237 months

Tuesday 14th July 2009
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escargot said:
We're not all that bad chaps.
Some of you are snails, not snakes?

bad company

20,618 posts

282 months

Wednesday 15th July 2009
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eddie1980 said:
[Agency's == horrible horrible people,]
Nothing like tarring a whole £multi million industry and all those working in it with the same brush irked.

Take a look here http://www.rec.uk.com . Then chose an agency from the membership.

bad company

20,618 posts

282 months

Wednesday 15th July 2009
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Dupont666I said:
swear I should set one up with a few IT staff and give the personal touch of not fking about and I would make a killing.

It would be so easy to weed out the bullstters that say stuff on their CVs and know fk all and actually being able to talk to the candidates and clients without having the issues of the recruiters having to ask you to repeat stuff cause you have used a term or jargon that they dont know as they are new to the job and learning.So tempting
I have worked in recruitment for over 20 years. Some actually believe the pooh you are talking and try to set up their own agencies. I don't know any that have worked.

Remember the agency is there to find you work and makes no charge to you for it's services.

JonRB

78,079 posts

288 months

Wednesday 15th July 2009
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bad company said:
Remember the agency is there to find you work and makes no charge to you for it's services.
Oh please! An agency is a business and there to make money for themselves by brokering a deal as a middleman. Both end parties end up paying for it as the money for the agent's comission has to come from somewhere and might otherwise have gone from the employer to the employee.

And that's fair enough. Everyone is in it to make money and I don't begrudge anyone earning an honest living. But please don't make out that the agency is in some ways doing the candidate a favour for no cost, because that's rubbish.