Supercharged SR3
Discussion
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For more info on the conversion you can check out the TTS web site
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Danny, don't you find that they run out of puff at the top end, at SPA last year with the tall gearing on it was really noticeable towards the end of the top staight!
The SR3 chassis just screams out for more power
, after going out in the works Radical Turbo with Phil Abbott the std SR3 felt really slow.
The initial runs with the supercharger look really promising
>> Edited by daved6 on Wednesday 7th January 09:37
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Danny, don't you find that they run out of puff at the top end, at SPA last year with the tall gearing on it was really noticeable towards the end of the top staight!
The SR3 chassis just screams out for more power
, after going out in the works Radical Turbo with Phil Abbott the std SR3 felt really slow. The initial runs with the supercharger look really promising
>> Edited by daved6 on Wednesday 7th January 09:37
I took a look at the conversion at the TTS stand today. It looks extremely neat to me. Had a chat with one of the TTS chaps and it does sound like a good option for my 1300cc car; probably combined with a refresh etc. Only thing is that I would have to buy & convert to fuel injection which would add quite a lot to the cost.
One thing I didn't ask is what the implications are for silencing. Do you have any idea Dave what this does to the static and driveby noise? Do you need a different silencer with the Supercharger installation? I use Combe a lot and Goodwood occasionally and don't think I could get away with the loft insulation approach to noise checks!
One thing I didn't ask is what the implications are for silencing. Do you have any idea Dave what this does to the static and driveby noise? Do you need a different silencer with the Supercharger installation? I use Combe a lot and Goodwood occasionally and don't think I could get away with the loft insulation approach to noise checks!
Andrew,
The induction noise of the supercharger and fuel injection system is far lower than the std flat slide carbs, not sure about the total noise level yet but I have purchased a noise meter and will check the level with both the Radical race & quiet silencer fitted when we test at Brunty next week.
Regarding the "heat" issuse, the turbo generates massive heat which requires extra cooling for both the engine and the actual engine bay area as a whole, we don't expect any problems because the supergharger has its own remote oil cooler which is mounted in its own ducted supply of fresh air along with a reservoir tank hence shouldn't increase the engine bay temperatures.
We have also installed a 50% increase in the engine oil cooler capacity to compensate for the higher loading / temperature of the return oil which would increase the running temperature of the engine if not addressed bearing in mind that this engine relies on both oil & water cooling.
The major advantage of the supercharger is there is NO LAG, because it is mechanically driven it is constant irrespective to throttle position and is proportional to revs hence this will drive like a higher powered normally aspirated engine.
>> Edited by daved6 on Friday 9th January 18:21
>> Edited by daved6 on Friday 9th January 18:23
The induction noise of the supercharger and fuel injection system is far lower than the std flat slide carbs, not sure about the total noise level yet but I have purchased a noise meter and will check the level with both the Radical race & quiet silencer fitted when we test at Brunty next week.
Regarding the "heat" issuse, the turbo generates massive heat which requires extra cooling for both the engine and the actual engine bay area as a whole, we don't expect any problems because the supergharger has its own remote oil cooler which is mounted in its own ducted supply of fresh air along with a reservoir tank hence shouldn't increase the engine bay temperatures.
We have also installed a 50% increase in the engine oil cooler capacity to compensate for the higher loading / temperature of the return oil which would increase the running temperature of the engine if not addressed bearing in mind that this engine relies on both oil & water cooling.
The major advantage of the supercharger is there is NO LAG, because it is mechanically driven it is constant irrespective to throttle position and is proportional to revs hence this will drive like a higher powered normally aspirated engine.
>> Edited by daved6 on Friday 9th January 18:21
>> Edited by daved6 on Friday 9th January 18:23
danny,
The supercharger kit costs 2.5K, but you will need to have fuel injection and possibly an engine re-fresh as well.
I purchased a complete 1300cc Hayabusa engine with injection, ecu and fuel pump from a bike breakers for 3K, the engine came complete with wiring harness as well and a certificate stating the original bike details confirming that the engine had only covered 1400 miles.
Which gave me a spare engine for not much more than the cost of purchasing the new injection system, fuel pump and ECU on their own.
If your running on carbs and want to go for the supercharger I would speak to Richard at TTS because he is in the process of sourcing some engines complete with all ancillaries at the moment.
>> Edited by daved6 on Saturday 10th January 10:09
The supercharger kit costs 2.5K, but you will need to have fuel injection and possibly an engine re-fresh as well.
I purchased a complete 1300cc Hayabusa engine with injection, ecu and fuel pump from a bike breakers for 3K, the engine came complete with wiring harness as well and a certificate stating the original bike details confirming that the engine had only covered 1400 miles.
Which gave me a spare engine for not much more than the cost of purchasing the new injection system, fuel pump and ECU on their own.
If your running on carbs and want to go for the supercharger I would speak to Richard at TTS because he is in the process of sourcing some engines complete with all ancillaries at the moment.
>> Edited by daved6 on Saturday 10th January 10:09
Danny, whats the raceco silencer?, I'm at Bedford on the 31st with RMA, so will be needing something sensible
Andrew, the car has sinced produced 326bhp@the wheels, Richard has been testing different size superchargers running different boost levels so that he can offer lower powered more reliable options as well as the high power set up.
Currently the smaller supercharger kit has been mapped and set up for 250 bhp at the wheels which is both cheaper and less stressfull on the whole running gear, but still giving a 65bhp gain over Radicals 1500cc motor.
Or you can have the full monty spec, over 650bhp per ton, for the full fat experience
Andrew, the car has sinced produced 326bhp@the wheels, Richard has been testing different size superchargers running different boost levels so that he can offer lower powered more reliable options as well as the high power set up.
Currently the smaller supercharger kit has been mapped and set up for 250 bhp at the wheels which is both cheaper and less stressfull on the whole running gear, but still giving a 65bhp gain over Radicals 1500cc motor.
Or you can have the full monty spec, over 650bhp per ton, for the full fat experience
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