Girl gets sunburn at school after suncream ban

[JonRB]

"A nine-year-old girl whose mother died from skin cancer was banned from applying suncream at school for health and safety reasons."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/57805...

Wait... what?

[hornetrider]

fk me. Elfensafetee his taking this country to the effing dogs.

[Zod]

There are too many stupid people in positions of authority working for the state. These people are of no use to anyone.

[FoolOnTheHill]

I don't get it.

Maybe it's because it's a private nursery, but all we ever have to do is sign a form saying we are happy to let the nursery staff do things like apply suncream, or administer medicine, or let our child play in the paddling pool.

[fadeaway]

that is quite clearly bks!

if the school are happy for the kid to wear suncream as long as it's applied under supervision then it's clearly not bothered about her "coming into contact with" kids that are allergic to it are they!

that's not health and safety, it's stupid people inventing stupid, unnecessary rules.

[jesta1865]

fadeaway said:

that is quite clearly bks!

if the school are happy for the kid to wear suncream as long as it's applied under supervision then it's clearly not bothered about her "coming into contact with" kids that are allergic to it are they!

that's not health and safety, it's stupid people inventing stupid, unnecessary rules.

it is elf safety causing this, my OH is a primary teacher, and they have to jump through hoops to be able to apply sun cream or anything else to the kids.

i do take your point about kids with an allergy coming in contact with it, but talking to OH its to do with the kids squirting it on each other not taking into account allergies.

in fact they have a kid at her school who has a mild allergy to some sun creams and she has to stay inside whilst the other kids play, and that's at the insistence of the parents.

[mouseymousey]

Are many people allergic to sun cream then?

[redweapon]

The school my kids go to insist they bring in suncream hats etc when its hot. Clearly the head at this other place is a Knob.

[HRG.]

mouseymousey said:

Are many people allergic to sun cream then?

I've met precisely no people with sun cream allergy in my forty four years.

[Percy Flage]

So why does the parent not apply a "once a day" cream - Piz Buin do one - before the child goes to school in the morning?

[HRG.]

Percy Flage said:

So why does the parent not apply a "once a day" cream - Piz Buin do one - before the child goes to school in the morning?

Doesn't work for my fair skinned daughter.

[jesta1865]

mouseymousey said:

Are many people allergic to sun cream then?

well believe it or not, she has a nut allergy, and so has to be careful around kids with sun cream with coconut in apparently, thats what the parents have told the school. i call pants on it, but the school can hardly play fast and loose with the request in case it does react.

[Horse_Apple]

JonRB said:

"A nine-year-old girl whose mother died from skin cancer was banned from applying suncream at school for health and safety reasons."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/57805...

Wait... what?

Nothing to do with health and safety. This rule is all about kiddy fiddling. It's to prevent teachers from being accused of rape when they touch a child.

To be honest, this has been driven by the parents who are of the firm belief nowadays that every other person is a paedo.

The schools have had no choice but to head down this rediculous route. That and also the fact that they repeatedly and comprehensively fail to weed out fiddlers at the interview stage but leave it until a few hundred kids have mentioned being touched inappropriately over a period of years or decades.

[fadeaway]

jesta1865 said:

it is elf safety causing this, my OH is a primary teacher, and they have to jump through hoops to be able to apply sun cream or anything else to the kids.

ok, maybe I was too general. But it's clearly a case of Health and safely rules being misunderstood and/or badly applied. The school initially refused to allow the girl to put on suncream. After the parents and/or press got involved they came up with "several solutions" - why weren't these suggested in the first place?

I would suggest that letting kids outside in the middle of a heat wave *without* suncream on (ie adequate protection) should be against health and safely rules! You'd have thought that getting kids into the habit of wearing suncream would actually be something that schools should be promoting, not banning.

[JonRB]

fadeaway said:

I would suggest that letting kids outside in the middle of a heat wave *without* suncream on (ie adequate protection) should be against health and safely rules! You'd have thought that getting kids into the habit of wearing suncream would actually be something that schools should be promoting, not banning.

Exactly my point and reason for posting in the first place.

Girl is prevented from applying sunscreen, despite having a history of Malignant Melanoma in the family, with the school cite *Health and Safety* as the reason!

[thehawk]

In NZ and Australia it's compulsory for kids to either bring sunscreen and a hat, most schools will also have sunscreen dispensers available.

[Podie]

HRG. said:

mouseymousey said:

Are many people allergic to sun cream then?

I've met precisely no people with sun cream allergy in my forty four years.

Some sun cream reacts badly with me, and I come out in a rash - so I just use the sensitive skin ones and I'm fine. Either way, I wouldn't call it an allergy. Certain plants (conifers for example) give the same reaction.

JonRB said:

...having a history of Malignant Melanoma in the family...

Research suggests that cancer isn't genetic, and I've certainly been told this in the past.

Edited by Podie on Thursday 9th July 16:07

[HRG.]

Podie said:

HRG. said:

mouseymousey said:

Are many people allergic to sun cream then?

I've met precisely no people with sun cream allergy in my forty four years.

Some sun cream reacts badly with me, and I come out in a rash - so I just use the sensitive skin ones and I'm fine. Either way, I wouldn't call it an allergy. Certain plants (conifers for example) give the same reaction.

JonRB said:

...having a history of Malignant Melanoma in the family...

Research suggests that cancer isn't genetic, and I've certainly been told this in the past.

Edited by Podie on Thursday 9th July 16:07

Begins in g and ends in hey

I get a rash if I stick my arms in a conifer, I just assumed everyone did

[s2art]

Podie said:

Research suggests that cancer isn't genetic, and I've certainly been told this in the past.

Edited by Podie on Thursday 9th July 16:07

Then you have been wrongly informed, at least for some cancers. In this case being very fair skinned is associated with increased risk, and that certainly is genetic.

[staceyb]

HRG. said:

Percy Flage said:

So why does the parent not apply a "once a day" cream - Piz Buin do one - before the child goes to school in the morning?

Doesn't work for my fair skinned daughter.

Doesn't work on my very freckled and fair skin either.