Freefall on BBC2 now.
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Northern Munkee

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Tuesday 14th July 2009
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Heads up, been trailed quite a bit on BBC2. Yuppie expose of mortgage miselling etc.

Expect this to be annoying to watch, in a I hate these people kind of a way.

Anyway intro very Glengary Glen Ross, always be closing...

Edited by Northern Munkee on Tuesday 14th July 21:08

AndyWoodall

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Tuesday 14th July 2009
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It's got a very strong cast, well worth a watch.

Northern Munkee

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Tuesday 14th July 2009
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Certainly off to a warts and all start, masturbation, boardroom sex, three a bed and only 20mins in...

No coke yet.

AndyWoodall

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Tuesday 14th July 2009
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AndyWoodall said:
It's got a very strong cast, well worth a watch.
Am I dreaming but was that Mayor Carcetti from The Wire cracking one out in the toilet? LOL.

Northern Munkee

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Tuesday 14th July 2009
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AndyWoodall said:
AndyWoodall said:
It's got a very strong cast, well worth a watch.
Am I dreaming but was that Mayor Carcetti from The Wire cracking one out in the toilet? LOL.
He's in danger of being typecasthehe

I recognise the selling technique, from seeing that first hand, its the same in all high pressure commission based sales, looks like this will be a fairly damning indictment of consumerism.

KANEIT

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Tuesday 14th July 2009
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Looks great so far. Will mortgage boy meet his mall cop pal on the way down, tables turned, or will they all end up foobed?

Northern Munkee

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Tuesday 14th July 2009
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You can see it must end in tears, self certification and sub prime, the question is clearly does accumulating 'stuff' make you happy?

Programme clearly made by Bloody Communists!

Had a mate who sold mortgages...

Lurking Lawyer

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Tuesday 14th July 2009
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Rosamund Pike is every bit as lovely as I remembered lickyum

I was sure I recognised the banker bloke from somewhere but couldn't place where - thanks for reminding me that it's The Wire (although no thanks for the spoiler that he becomes mayor. Doh).

AndyWoodall

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Tuesday 14th July 2009
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Arse, sorry. To be honest I'm presuming he becomes mayor, just from the way the show is going, I'm only at where BBC 2 is.

Rosamund Pike has great pins.

Lurking Lawyer

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Tuesday 14th July 2009
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Not too worry, Andy. It won't stop me tuning in to it avidly, irrespective!

Northern Munkee

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Tuesday 14th July 2009
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COKE!

I claim my £10 prize.

AndyWoodall

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Tuesday 14th July 2009
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Lurking Lawyer said:
Not too worry, Andy. It won't stop me tuning in to it avidly, irrespective!
Put it this way, if I'm wrong we'll see a twist I didn't expect.

Northern Munkee

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Tuesday 14th July 2009
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Very good, think they could have expanded it into something more substantial two or three parts, and interwined the stories furthe, or more stories. Thought Aiden Gillen's exit rather cliched.

But Dave's salesman, a certain type of amoral salesman, was bang on, I've seen it, get them to sign, tell them anything, selling, selling is selling, he is not so much selling a thing as himself or an idea not the thing,
could sell anything, deal gone wrong, never mind, keep going, there's always the next deal.

Still very good TV, still left me thinking how horrible the world can be.

And the moral at the end, well, friendship, family, community are all that matters.

Edited by Northern Munkee on Tuesday 14th July 22:41

130R

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Tuesday 14th July 2009
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Damn watching Gus was like looking in a mirror (except where he threw himself off the bridge). Spooky

Northern Munkee

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130R said:
Damn watching Gus was like looking in a mirror (except where he threw himself off the bridge). Spooky
Exactly, many bankers jumping off buildings during the down turn? Not really believable that he wouldn't have some wedge salted away, for a rainy day, or dumped his bank shares before we knew his bank was going turbo, or not have the where with all to do what his mate was doing go do travel or find something else, it would have been more believable leaving him blubbing with his daughter, or trying to get a charity bunk up from Rosamund Pikes to show his empty existence, I certainly would...


KANEIT

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Tuesday 14th July 2009
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Northern Munkee said:
130R said:
Damn watching Gus was like looking in a mirror (except where he threw himself off the bridge). Spooky
Exactly, many bankers jumping off buildings during the down turn? Not really believable that he wouldn't have some wedge salted away, for a rainy day, or dumped his bank shares before we knew his bank was going turbo, or not have the where with all to do what his mate was doing go do travel or find something else, it would have been more believable leaving him blubbing with his daughter, or trying to get a charity bunk up from Rosamund Pikes to show his empty existence, I certainly would...
This wouldn't be as dramatic without the stereotypical extremes though, the poor guy who believed he could have more, the immoral sales guy and the mental finance bloke married to the job. For each character they had a secondary to add balance - the poor guy's wife who was happy with her lot and didn't covet flash gear, the sales lad who had some morals ( Lily Allen's bro) and the Asian financial guy who seemed a decent bloke.

V8mate

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Wednesday 15th July 2009
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Northern Munkee said:
And the moral at the end, well, friendship, family, community are all that matters.
Or maybe that 'a good salesman never goes hungry' smile

CraigW

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Wednesday 15th July 2009
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I thought it was done generally v well.

V8mate

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Wednesday 15th July 2009
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CraigW said:
I thought it was done generally v well.
Yep. I think dragging it out to a 2 or 3 part mini-series would have taken the energy out of it. Most viewers would be uninterested in any more technical detail about the circumstances, so simply potting the emotions of change into a 90 minute hit kept the subject matter powerful.

Davey111

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Wednesday 15th July 2009
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I quite liked it but was a bit pissed off with the ending. To me it came across that the poor got screwed over and deserve better, the really rich "got what they deserved" and the middle class bds got away with everything without an issue and will carry on screwing people. But maybe I missed the point.