Move from 550 to 575?
Discussion
I'm just toying with the idea of moving from my 550 to a 575. Not a serious thought, although in a year's time it might be.
Has anyone on here done this or driven both?
I prefer the interior of the 575, but not sure about an F1 box. I've read a lot about 575's and know about them needing the handling pack etc
What do people think?
Maybe the diiferences are minute and I'd be better waiting a few years for 599's to come down to sensible prices.
Appreciate your views
Has anyone on here done this or driven both?
I prefer the interior of the 575, but not sure about an F1 box. I've read a lot about 575's and know about them needing the handling pack etc
What do people think?
Maybe the diiferences are minute and I'd be better waiting a few years for 599's to come down to sensible prices.
Appreciate your views
F355GTS said:
I went form a 550 to 575 just to get the F1, 575 feels faster than the 30 odd brake they claim, IMHO the F1 box is sublime and brings the car alive, removing the 550's heavy clutch and deliberate gearchange.
I had always thought I wouldn't want an F1 box (the open gate Ferrari experience thing etc) but a lot of people rate the F1 box on the 575. I'm changing my view!Not surprising that 575 F1 owners rate their cars!
I wonder if anyone has actually moved from a 575 F1 to a 575 manual because they didn't get on with the 'box for their intended usage or even from 575 F1 to a 550 or for similar reasons? I suspect few, if any....
You would have to say that the manual 575 is a pretty rare beast and I would have thought that in years (perhaps many years) to come, that could be the pick of the bunch in terms of potential investment material.
I wonder if anyone has actually moved from a 575 F1 to a 575 manual because they didn't get on with the 'box for their intended usage or even from 575 F1 to a 550 or for similar reasons? I suspect few, if any....
You would have to say that the manual 575 is a pretty rare beast and I would have thought that in years (perhaps many years) to come, that could be the pick of the bunch in terms of potential investment material.
I had 575M F1 for 18 months (7k miles inc euro hoons and track days), and F430 spider F1 for 12 months ( 6k miles) concurrently
Just got 599 and owned for 3 weeks so far and can give F1 box views across a wide range of Fs (599 the perfect hybrid of the other 2)
IMHO the 575 box is excellent. You do need a slight lift off at high revs which the 430 will forgive (more than the 599 actually altho it shifts faster)
Allow the software to do its stuff to ie dont change down beyond 2nd yrself and use the torque - you dont need to razz up and down the box like the 430
When you get the hang of it you can do the graham hill drive with unspilled water in a glass on the bonnet like an old bentley or a track day blast with superfast slick shifts you would never achieve yrself
there is also something about the driving focus you get being in the zone that paddles gives you
only thing is in the 575 it was hard to get a modicum of power down in reverse and first gear and move slowly up a slight incline on a gravel drive to get it in the garage without spraying gravel all over, the 599 is v much smoother and more gentle in delivery
Just got 599 and owned for 3 weeks so far and can give F1 box views across a wide range of Fs (599 the perfect hybrid of the other 2)
IMHO the 575 box is excellent. You do need a slight lift off at high revs which the 430 will forgive (more than the 599 actually altho it shifts faster)
Allow the software to do its stuff to ie dont change down beyond 2nd yrself and use the torque - you dont need to razz up and down the box like the 430
When you get the hang of it you can do the graham hill drive with unspilled water in a glass on the bonnet like an old bentley or a track day blast with superfast slick shifts you would never achieve yrself
there is also something about the driving focus you get being in the zone that paddles gives you
only thing is in the 575 it was hard to get a modicum of power down in reverse and first gear and move slowly up a slight incline on a gravel drive to get it in the garage without spraying gravel all over, the 599 is v much smoother and more gentle in delivery
Let me be the dissenting voice here, then. I prefer the 550 over the 575. The looks are better, and I like the purity of the first car, with less electronics. The ASR is more primitive but I switch that off anyway. I hate the F1 gearbox, and a gated 575 would be great but I don't need the extra power and it does not compensate for the other things I don't like (as much).
I do believe, in the far, far, future, that the 550 will be more valuable than the 575. It is usually this way - the first version is the most collectable (see BB, 308, and so on). But this will be at least 10 years from now.
But no matter your preference, the 550 and 575 are awesome cars for ridiculous money (nowadays), and the differences are small.
My 550 never blows a hose, BTW. Never missed a beat in 20k miles so far.
Onno
I do believe, in the far, far, future, that the 550 will be more valuable than the 575. It is usually this way - the first version is the most collectable (see BB, 308, and so on). But this will be at least 10 years from now.
But no matter your preference, the 550 and 575 are awesome cars for ridiculous money (nowadays), and the differences are small.
My 550 never blows a hose, BTW. Never missed a beat in 20k miles so far.
Onno
Oil leaks if you don't use it much - same for all cars but the V12 apparently v prone
Rusted end to steering ball column resulting in needing a whole column (fortunately got mine done under warranty)
And finally from me - the bonnet hinges where they join the body in a little cell like structure - the drainage hole gets block so fill up wi water and rust - use an air hose to blast free and stick some fine copper grease in there to stop it happenning again
Otherwise an awesome car
d
Rusted end to steering ball column resulting in needing a whole column (fortunately got mine done under warranty)
And finally from me - the bonnet hinges where they join the body in a little cell like structure - the drainage hole gets block so fill up wi water and rust - use an air hose to blast free and stick some fine copper grease in there to stop it happenning again
Otherwise an awesome car
d
I have a TDF 575 manual with FHP and for me it is an improvement over the 550 (though not to diminish the 550, it is still a fantastic car).
As mentioned by others, it simply improves on what is already a sublime car. The steering feels sharper (though having driven non FHP this is definitely because of the pack), the clutch is not as heavy, engine seems to 'breathe' much easier and is smoother/torquier and the interior is a massive improvement. The ride is very balanced and it does not feel like the big car it is, it can be hustled like a big go-kart when you feel like it. Although that applies to the 550 too I think.
If it is not a massive difference in price then go for it. For me the interior alone definitely makes it worthwhile as the 550 does feel a little bit dated now and I love the stitching/detailing (such as the gauge bezels) on the 575.
As mentioned by others, it simply improves on what is already a sublime car. The steering feels sharper (though having driven non FHP this is definitely because of the pack), the clutch is not as heavy, engine seems to 'breathe' much easier and is smoother/torquier and the interior is a massive improvement. The ride is very balanced and it does not feel like the big car it is, it can be hustled like a big go-kart when you feel like it. Although that applies to the 550 too I think.
If it is not a massive difference in price then go for it. For me the interior alone definitely makes it worthwhile as the 550 does feel a little bit dated now and I love the stitching/detailing (such as the gauge bezels) on the 575.
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