Bloody seat belts......
Bloody seat belts......
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Ant.

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5,254 posts

310 months

Saturday 18th July 2009
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Right , what is it with these fking seat belts?

If I dare to lean forward for any reason, I end up with 27ft of seat belt around myself.

Also when I get out it doesn't retract without me pleading and feeding it in a mm at a time!

I have had the O/S one out tonight and pulled it apart, nothing broken, nothing missing, basically it couldn't pull the fking skin off a rice pudding when it comes to retraction,(unlike my engine,(have I mentioned that????it made 295 ponies,but thats another thread)).

SOOOOOOOOOO, any tips for improving the situation, when there seems nothing is broken.
The only thing I can think of is the "spring" has gone weak, I have tried winding more on if you see what I mean....

Unusual for me to complain about anything TVR, but they are ste................BIG stE....



On the upside, it's only 2 weeks to the Growl.

HRG.

72,863 posts

268 months

Saturday 18th July 2009
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Yes Ant, you've mentioned it hehe I'll be asking you what you've done in a bit wink

Does the belt foul on the seat or rear bulkhead? If I have either seat right back they get pinched.

Ant.

Original Poster:

5,254 posts

310 months

Saturday 18th July 2009
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I know about the seat position problem, and have made sure it doesn't rub on the seat.
It does rub on the carpet on below the upper mount, but I dont see how to stop that.


HRG.

72,863 posts

268 months

Saturday 18th July 2009
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Mine had thermosoftening plastic guides when I got it but they looked naff. They held the belt forward so it was easy to grab and fed back easier, but they would deform in the event of being needed.


Ant.

Original Poster:

5,254 posts

310 months

Saturday 18th July 2009
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HRG. said:
Mine had thermosoftening plastic guides when I got it but they looked naff. They held the belt forward so it was easy to grab and fed back easier, but they would deform in the event of being needed.
Like the ones in a cerb?

HRG.

72,863 posts

268 months

Saturday 18th July 2009
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Dunno, never seen Cerb ones, these were home made. Might be some mileage in it though. biggrin

Green Meanie

484 posts

247 months

Sunday 19th July 2009
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I am not sure but the ones on the Cerb look like,Vauxhall astra 2 Door versions.I used them on a Hot Rod that I built some years ago (damn I miss that carcool ).But the Griff still comes out TOPS for pure driving pleasure biggrin

G.M

350Matt

3,897 posts

308 months

Sunday 19th July 2009
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there's a couple of problems with the std installation.

The longer vertical run up to the shoulder pivot point rubs on the carpet and so this causes friction and prevents the belt from retracting easily.

You can either space out the bottom belt unit so its doesn't touch or put some tape on the carpet directly behind the belt.

The angular position of the bottom unit is also very important as this orientation will control how sensitive the unit is to lock -up, try tweaking it in one direction and the other.

Also when the hood is down it rubs on the belt as it exits the shoulder pivot point.

I did this to make sure the belt runs correctly and works all the time as I had visions of its not locking up when required.





The passenger one is angled to lower the point for my wife so it doesn't garotte her like the std position does.

Now theres' some argument that the extra leverage induced by these top mounts will rip out the captive bolt in the event of a big stop .

However I'd rather have the belt locking up correctly and not in a throttling position


Edited by 350Matt on Sunday 19th July 13:18

Del 203

12,728 posts

278 months

Sunday 19th July 2009
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350Matt said:
Now theres' some argument that the extra leverage induced by these top mounts will rip out the captive bolt in the event of a big stop .
Could it be double bolted with a plate underneath ?

350Matt

3,897 posts

308 months

Sunday 19th July 2009
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Potentially yes, you could also add a 2nd fixing that bolted through the wheelarch to distribute the load and prevent it canting over under load

ruaricoles

1,240 posts

254 months

Monday 20th July 2009
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The original belts weren't retracting well in my 1994 car, so on my request Sportmotive fitted new ones for me while sorting the outriggers. The new ones work absolutely fine (even when rubbing on the carpet) so I imagine the springs just get tired. Not expensive to change either, although I think getting the rusty old bolts out gave Ian some grief.... smile

Ruari