The taking of Pelham 123 (With Spoilers)
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Just seen the advert for this. I want to find the financial accumen behind this, and slap them with cold fish.
The original was a classic, brilliant music, great plot, and Walter Matthau. This new version looks as big a pile of steaming cack as the 2002 remake of The Italian Job was. Why can't they just make good new films? Why remake old ones, but worse? Why not leave classics like Alien, Terminator Die Hard and Rocky without a "one last attempt to ruin it", that on the face of it isn't overly commercially sucessful anyways.
Heathens.
The original was a classic, brilliant music, great plot, and Walter Matthau. This new version looks as big a pile of steaming cack as the 2002 remake of The Italian Job was. Why can't they just make good new films? Why remake old ones, but worse? Why not leave classics like Alien, Terminator Die Hard and Rocky without a "one last attempt to ruin it", that on the face of it isn't overly commercially sucessful anyways.
Heathens.
I totally agree, the original is such as classic, Tarantino always claims it to be his inspiration for Reservoir Dogs (It has the whole Mr. White, Mr. Yellow thing going on). I think it’s been chosen for a remake as its one of those films that been generally forgotten about, I’ll bet that half the people who go a see it have no idea it’s a remake.
I’d imagine the new version will be an overblown CGI fest, rather than surviving on tension like the original.
P.S. One bit I do hope they’ve omitted is the silly sub plot involving the Japanese visitors, these are the only scenes that really date the film.
I’d imagine the new version will be an overblown CGI fest, rather than surviving on tension like the original.
P.S. One bit I do hope they’ve omitted is the silly sub plot involving the Japanese visitors, these are the only scenes that really date the film.
philwhite said:
I’ll bet that half the people who go a see it have no idea it’s a remake.
Equally, a lot of these people will be disappointed by the original after seeing the big bang, surround sound, effects driven Hollywood toss that they have been conditioned to appreciate.
Robert Shaw in the original was great.
What's the score with spoilers?
Oh well here goes :P
For me the crucial point in the original was the transition from an outlandish caper to something very much more serious - the murder of the civilian was the moment of realisation, these guys are serious
Can they re-make this? I doubt it.
Oh well here goes :P
For me the crucial point in the original was the transition from an outlandish caper to something very much more serious - the murder of the civilian was the moment of realisation, these guys are serious
Can they re-make this? I doubt it.
philwhite said:
I totally agree, the original is such as classic, Tarantino always claims it to be his inspiration for Reservoir Dogs (It has the whole Mr. White, Mr. Yellow thing going on). I think it’s been chosen for a remake as its one of those films that been generally forgotten about, I’ll bet that half the people who go a see it have no idea it’s a remake.
I’d imagine the new version will be an overblown CGI fest, rather than surviving on tension like the original.
P.S. One bit I do hope they’ve omitted is the silly sub plot involving the Japanese visitors, these are the only scenes that really date the film.
Now I thought Tarantino's inspiration for RDogs was Kubrick's The Killing with it's non linear timeline, although I will acknowledge the colour names maybe inspired by it.I’d imagine the new version will be an overblown CGI fest, rather than surviving on tension like the original.
P.S. One bit I do hope they’ve omitted is the silly sub plot involving the Japanese visitors, these are the only scenes that really date the film.
Northern Munkee said:
Now I thought Tarantino's inspiration for RDogs was Kubrick's The Killing with it's non linear timeline, although I will acknowledge the colour names maybe inspired by it.
There were elements of several films in it he is a movie geek. City on fire If I recal correctly was about an under cover cop. Think it was a Hong Kong film he drew heavily from.He at least got the mr blue/ orange idea from Pelham 123
Pesty said:
Northern Munkee said:
Now I thought Tarantino's inspiration for RDogs was Kubrick's The Killing with it's non linear timeline, although I will acknowledge the colour names maybe inspired by it.
There were elements of several films in it he is a movie geek. City on fire If I recal correctly was about an under cover cop. Think it was a Hong Kong film he drew heavily from.He at least got the mr blue/ orange idea from Pelham 123
I watched TOP123 again this evening and have just viewed the trailer for the re-make.
There is not a hope in hell this 're-make' can compete with the original; there are far too many sub-plots and 'quiet moments' where pieces of the story are grafted together in the original to get the nod from Hollywood. The trailer shows the hijackers taking the train by spraying the carriage with gunfire
and they've had to alter the plot to get some more mileage out of the main man Denzel.
This *might* be a good film in its own right compared to whatever else is out at the moment but beyond that I have my doubts. Unapologetically prejudiced on this one.
There is not a hope in hell this 're-make' can compete with the original; there are far too many sub-plots and 'quiet moments' where pieces of the story are grafted together in the original to get the nod from Hollywood. The trailer shows the hijackers taking the train by spraying the carriage with gunfire
and they've had to alter the plot to get some more mileage out of the main man Denzel.This *might* be a good film in its own right compared to whatever else is out at the moment but beyond that I have my doubts. Unapologetically prejudiced on this one.
bunch of whiners!
its not a remake - they've just used the original for inspiration. if you like the old one and dont like the idea of a new one....dont watch it. personally, i havent seen the old one and never will so for me it will be a film i take on its own merits....wheres the problem?
its not a remake - they've just used the original for inspiration. if you like the old one and dont like the idea of a new one....dont watch it. personally, i havent seen the old one and never will so for me it will be a film i take on its own merits....wheres the problem?
I love the original, Robert Shaw was one of my favourite actors and he was great in it as was Walter Matthau and Jerry Stiller. It was well plotted, taut and suspenseful and had a little humour too. I'm looking forward to the new one as well though and will judge it after I've seen it.
Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 26th July 23:05
Tiggsy said:
bunch of whiners!
its not a remake - they've just used the original for inspiration. if you like the old one and dont like the idea of a new one....dont watch it. personally, i havent seen the old one and never will so for me it will be a film i take on its own merits....wheres the problem?
Watch the original then ask us again.its not a remake - they've just used the original for inspiration. if you like the old one and dont like the idea of a new one....dont watch it. personally, i havent seen the old one and never will so for me it will be a film i take on its own merits....wheres the problem?
Pesty said:
Tiggsy said:
bunch of whiners!
its not a remake - they've just used the original for inspiration. if you like the old one and dont like the idea of a new one....dont watch it. personally, i havent seen the old one and never will so for me it will be a film i take on its own merits....wheres the problem?
Watch the original then ask us again.its not a remake - they've just used the original for inspiration. if you like the old one and dont like the idea of a new one....dont watch it. personally, i havent seen the old one and never will so for me it will be a film i take on its own merits....wheres the problem?
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