The Watchmen - questions
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LotusACBC

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300 months

Monday 27th July 2009
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I don't know how I took so long to see this movie, but I just watched it twice. A few things; anyone else think the comedian looked like robert downey jr on steroids. Roshach looks like danny bonaduce too. Who is the woman who plays Miss Jupiter? Not to be too up front, but my god I haven't felt the urge to "rub one out" this bad over any woman since my teens FFS. She is sooooo damned hot and beautiful at the same time. Thank god she showed her body, it was like soft porn FSS, and she had all the good!! I don't get one thing though, when Roshach first went to see Dr Manhattan in the compound he called her Silver Spectre, so what is her name? That or Ms Jupiter? And on the subject of Dr Manhattan, why would they assume he's a God if he was human and had an accident that transformed him to what he is? Why does he speak of myself as a separate entity of humans when he was a human? And why wouldn't any man from within stand in the particle room and make himself the same as Doc Manhattan? What was the deal towards the end in Antartica with the bodies in the chamber who sacrificed themselves.it looked as if he was creating more Dr Manhattans? And what or where did the tiger with horns come from? What was the meaning of the whole pharoah symbolism? Sorry for the long text clump, I'm typing from my blackberry. I loved the movie, idefinately on the top of my list. Oh one more question regarding the smartest man in the world and the meeting he had with the suits about oil? Was he asking them to turn over all their shares or something? Who played ms jupiter/silver spectre whatever her name was? Love the ending, I won't spoil it for those who haven't seen it, but great ending I.e. The little brown book

Art_Vandelay

6,691 posts

200 months

Monday 27th July 2009
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Read the graphic novel or do as I did and download the animated one. It helps it all to make sense. The movie was ok, pretty accurate and in line with the original story. The one thing with the graphic novel animation is that all the voices are done by a guy, the sex scene is extremely wierd.

philwhite

259 posts

197 months

Monday 27th July 2009
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As Art said, defiantly read the book and all your questions will be answered. But in the meantime I’ll give you my thoughts on your questions...

LotusACBC said:
...called her Silver Spectre, so what is her name?
Her name in actually Laurie Jupiter, but she goes by the alias of Silk Spectre 2, her mother, Sally Jupiter was the original Silk Spectre during the Minutemen era, sally Jupiter was of Polish origin but changed her name to Jupiter to cover it.

LotusACBC said:
And on the subject of Dr Manhattan, why would they assume he's a God if he was human and had an accident that transformed him to what he is?
He was basically forced to work for the USA as a weapon against the soviets, and the media made him out to be God like in order to strike fear into their enemies.

LotusACBC said:
Why does he speak of myself as a separate entity of humans when he was a human?
He dosen’t see himself as human anymore after he see’s everyone around him aging, once hes blamed for giving people cancer this causes him to leave earth.

LotusACBC said:
And why wouldn't any man from within stand in the particle room and make himself the same as Doc Manhattan?
I can perhaps guess that as he was a watchmaker he understood how things are put together and perhaps managed to put himself back together after the accident, as he did at the end of the film.

LotusACBC said:
What was the deal towards the end in Antartica with the bodies in the chamber who sacrificed themselves. it looked as if he was creating more Dr Manhattans?
Once he’d set his plan in motion, he dispatched of his staff, in this book this is done by freezing them by locking them in his biodome then opening it, in the film I think he poisons them and puts the bodies in the chamber

LotusACBC said:
And what or where did the tiger with horns come from? book
This was an genetically modified pet that Vedit kept.

If you like the movie you should seriously read the book, typing this is making me want to read it again!! Oh, and if you buy the DVD or Bluray don't get the UK version, the US version is the directors cut and about 30 minutes longer.

Edited by philwhite on Monday 27th July 08:15

RemaL

25,040 posts

250 months

Monday 27th July 2009
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I'm glad I still have the original comic's of the watchmen. enjoyed the movie and as said was very close to the comic's

Oakey

27,939 posts

232 months

Monday 27th July 2009
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The girl you're referring to gets her baps out in Harold and Kumar get the Munchies (go to White Castle). She didn't look as nice as in Watchmen in that film though

Civpilot

6,246 posts

256 months

Monday 27th July 2009
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philwhite said:
Oh, and if you buy the DVD or Bluray don't get the UK version, the US version is the directors cut and about 30 minutes longer.
Although rumour has it the American Blueray is actually Region locked so wont play over here! mad

Art_Vandelay

6,691 posts

200 months

Monday 27th July 2009
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Civpilot said:
philwhite said:
Oh, and if you buy the DVD or Bluray don't get the UK version, the US version is the directors cut and about 30 minutes longer.
Although rumour has it the American Blueray is actually Region locked so wont play over here! mad
I thought all movie blurays were region encoded, only the videogames weren't. I have a Singapore import PS3 which refuses to play UK Blurays but is happy to play UK games.

Civpilot

6,246 posts

256 months

Monday 27th July 2009
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Art_Vandelay said:
Civpilot said:
philwhite said:
Oh, and if you buy the DVD or Bluray don't get the UK version, the US version is the directors cut and about 30 minutes longer.
Although rumour has it the American Blueray is actually Region locked so wont play over here! mad
I thought all movie blurays were region encoded, only the videogames weren't. I have a Singapore import PS3 which refuses to play UK Blurays but is happy to play UK games.
Actually most Blueray movies are region free, very few are locked (Serenity for example is region free, mine has the FBI warning at the start not the FACT one).

However I've done a little search and Watchmen Directors Cut is now rumoured as Region free biggrin

Try this little website for a very extensive list of BlueRay region coding... http://regionfreemovies.com/

Art_Vandelay

6,691 posts

200 months

Monday 27th July 2009
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Civpilot said:
Art_Vandelay said:
Civpilot said:
philwhite said:
Oh, and if you buy the DVD or Bluray don't get the UK version, the US version is the directors cut and about 30 minutes longer.
Although rumour has it the American Blueray is actually Region locked so wont play over here! mad
I thought all movie blurays were region encoded, only the videogames weren't. I have a Singapore import PS3 which refuses to play UK Blurays but is happy to play UK games.
Actually most Blueray movies are region free, very few are locked (Serenity for example is region free, mine has the FBI warning at the start not the FACT one).

However I've done a little search and Watchmen Directors Cut is now rumoured as Region free biggrin

Try this little website for a very extensive list of BlueRay region coding... http://regionfreemovies.com/
Thanks for that, I think what first gave me this impression was Rush Hour 3 (I hadn't seen it at the time, I now know the error of my ways) which refused to play on the PS3 and lead to a region error message popping up on screen.

I will have to try some of my other Blurays on the PS3 now!

rsv gone!

11,288 posts

257 months

Monday 27th July 2009
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Oakey said:
The girl you're referring to gets her baps out in Harold and Kumar get the Munchies (go to White Castle). She didn't look as nice as in Watchmen in that film though

Malin Akerman


LotusACBC

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2,591 posts

300 months

Tuesday 28th July 2009
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Thank you for all the info--especially the picture--she is so hot its unbelievable--- so when did Watchmen the original graphic novel come out?

philwhite

259 posts

197 months

Tuesday 28th July 2009
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LotusACBC said:
Thank you for all the info--especially the picture--she is so hot its unbelievable--- so when did Watchmen the original graphic novel come out?
1986, originally published as 12 monthly comics by DC then as a trade paperback, a collection of the original 12 is worth quite a bit I believe.

Edited by philwhite on Tuesday 28th July 15:30

M3CHA-MONK3Y

6,095 posts

211 months

Tuesday 28th July 2009
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I went to see this at the cinema and absolutely loved it!
I'm a major film buff and anything that makes me think and contains action is a winner in my book but this blew me away.

ofcorsa

3,541 posts

259 months

Tuesday 28th July 2009
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One thing about Dr Manhattan that didnt come across in the movie very well, Is that since the accident, Time all happens at once for him, He begins too see everything happen at once but doesnt get involved because to him, everything has already happened. This gives him some kind of onmipotence

mattley

3,027 posts

238 months

Tuesday 28th July 2009
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philwhite said:
LotusACBC said:
Thank you for all the info--especially the picture--she is so hot its unbelievable--- so when did Watchmen the original graphic novel come out?
1986, originally published as 12 monthly comics by DC then as a trade paperback, a collection of the original 12 is worth quite a bit I believe.
My fully bound novel was printed in 1987 and signed by Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons in December of that year.

I haven't seen the movie yet as the only release so far has been the cut down cinema release, I'm waiting for the full release and I'll wait as long as it takes. (hopefully for this christmas) .


Mars

9,575 posts

230 months

Tuesday 28th July 2009
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^^^ The director's cut is defnitely worth watching.

mattley

3,027 posts

238 months

Tuesday 28th July 2009
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have you seen it or do you just agree that it's worth waiting for?

Mars

9,575 posts

230 months

Tuesday 28th July 2009
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I have seen it. It's 3 hours long. If you're a fan of the book, it's the only one to watch as there's a lot of stuff cut from the theatre version (apparently - I haven't seen that version) like Hollis Mason's death.

Watchman

6,391 posts

261 months

Tuesday 28th July 2009
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Considering this is the movie I've been waiting for, for 23 years, I thought it was bloody fabulous. I'm so glad all the previous intended versions weren't made. Snyder has done the source material proud. I honestly think Alan Moore is a bit of an arse if he doesn't come around regarding this.

dreamz

5,297 posts

209 months

Wednesday 29th July 2009
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how did roarshacks mask ink marks move?