E60 M5 Future Values
E60 M5 Future Values
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Jazzer

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1,758 posts

227 months

Monday 27th July 2009
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Evening all!

Havin a big debate down the local tonight about future values of E60s and comparison with E39 M5s.....

What do you reckon a six year old E60 M5 saloon (good nick, good spec, say 50000 miles and BMW warranty) would be worth?

Some geezers thought less than £20K, even approaching £15K....around the same or even less than E39s!

What do you think??

Jazzer

Olf

11,977 posts

241 months

Monday 27th July 2009
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I think they'll tank in the long term. There's lot of them vs the E39. They're brutally expensive to run even vs an E39 and mechanically they're your worst technological nightmare. BMWs warranty price must give some indication of the future in this respect.

The E34 has a reputation as a money pit, in 10 years time the E60 will make us wonder what the fuss was about.

belleair302

6,995 posts

230 months

Monday 27th July 2009
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In the future more and more people will hanker after cars which can be driven, not cars driven by computers. I cannot see many 4th or 5th owners having the money nor the specialist knowledge to keep these cars on the road, whereas E28's, E34's and E39's can still be worked on by local specialists.
Values will fall after a car is 5 years old and I believe many will be broken for useable parts not available at a good price from BMW. Third owners may also not be willing to pay BMW warranty prices either.
Not a good car to buy for a long term affair.

fridaypassion

11,188 posts

251 months

Monday 27th July 2009
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values will tank more than ever because you have big complicated cars with plenty of miles on you need bravery and deep pockets to run them. Add the £400 a year car tax into the equation and its not looking good.

autotrader

28 posts

222 months

Monday 27th July 2009
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fridaypassion said:
values will tank more than ever because you have big complicated cars with plenty of miles on you need bravery and deep pockets to run them. Add the £400 a year car tax into the equation and its not looking good.
try 1600 a year tax here in ireland!

Jazzer

Original Poster:

1,758 posts

227 months

Monday 27th July 2009
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fk me.....1600 a year.....that's unbelievable!

No wonder you lot are all moving over here!!

Zod

35,295 posts

281 months

Monday 27th July 2009
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Oh, don't be such a bunch of pathetic ninnies - it's an amazing car that is now very cheap, so just enjoy it. 500 bhp for £30k is an utter bargain, even if you get a £5k bill in the first year.


baz1985

3,682 posts

268 months

Monday 27th July 2009
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Zod said:
Oh, don't be such a bunch of pathetic ninnies - it's an amazing car that is now very cheap, so just enjoy it. 500 bhp for £30k is an utter bargain, even if you get a £5k bill in the first year.
Agreed, if you're a 'Magic Circle' partner I guess its small change!

isee

3,713 posts

206 months

Tuesday 28th July 2009
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baz1985 said:
Zod said:
Oh, don't be such a bunch of pathetic ninnies - it's an amazing car that is now very cheap, so just enjoy it. 500 bhp for £30k is an utter bargain, even if you get a £5k bill in the first year.
Agreed, if you're a 'Magic Circle' partner I guess its small change!
why the sarcasm?
Zod is right, 500bhp for under 30k IS small change.
In other words. 30k is a lot of money, don't think anyone has said otherwise, but it's not a lot of money for a 500bhp of automotive art.

on topic now: I disagree with the tanking price forecast.
BMW does extended warranty up to 10 years old, and I would not have a modern car without one, even if it was a 2 litre diesel.
However in another 5 years the M5 will not seem so complicated anymore and electronic parts that are no longer made will most likely be replaced or adapted with modern and cheap to produce electronics anyway.

The last season M5 was also a technological nightmare at the time but people seem to cope with it today.

Edited by isee on Tuesday 28th July 08:35

derestrictor

18,764 posts

284 months

Tuesday 28th July 2009
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Zod said:
Oh, don't be such a bunch of pathetic ninnies - it's an amazing car that is now very cheap, so just enjoy it. 500 bhp for £30k is an utter bargain, even if you get a £5k bill in the first year.
hehe

Harsh but...

derestrictor

18,764 posts

284 months

Tuesday 28th July 2009
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belleair302 said:
In the future more and more people will hanker after cars which can be driven, not cars driven by computers.
Utter tosh, old bean.

It's called progress: if you valued some rose tinted notion of unaided motion so dearly then ditch the E34 and tame a wild stallion. Or walk!

I cannot abide this luddite bias against vehicular development on such tenuous grounds: where do you draw the line on what is and isn't acceptable intervention?

I honestly believe it's all predicated on some farcical, flat earthist machismo which sees men who think themselves Fangioic tyre shredders preconditioned to respond accordingly when in fact, they are not, emphatically, racing drivers.


CraigW

12,248 posts

305 months

Tuesday 28th July 2009
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what he said biggrin

belleair302

6,995 posts

230 months

Tuesday 28th July 2009
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derestrictor said:
belleair302 said:
In the future more and more people will hanker after cars which can be driven, not cars driven by computers.
Utter tosh, old bean.

It's called progress: if you valued some rose tinted notion of unaided motion so dearly then ditch the E34 and tame a wild stallion. Or walk!

I cannot abide this luddite bias against vehicular development on such tenuous grounds: where do you draw the line on what is and isn't acceptable intervention?

I honestly believe it's all predicated on some farcical, flat earthist machismo which sees men who think themselves Fangioic tyre shredders preconditioned to respond accordingly when in fact, they are not, emphatically, racing drivers.
Funny how cars made in the 1950's and 1960's are worth more than cars made in the 1980's and 1990's. Time will tell but spend time with your favourite specialist and ask him if he will work on an E60 in five years time!!! Getting the correct software codes from BMW is very expensive and finding electronics engineers with experience is very hard. That M6 is heading for the scrap heap by 2015....

isee

3,713 posts

206 months

Tuesday 28th July 2009
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derestrictor said:
belleair302 said:
In the future more and more people will hanker after cars which can be driven, not cars driven by computers.
Utter tosh, old bean.

It's called progress: if you valued some rose tinted notion of unaided motion so dearly then ditch the E34 and tame a wild stallion. Or walk!

I cannot abide this luddite bias against vehicular development on such tenuous grounds: where do you draw the line on what is and isn't acceptable intervention?

I honestly believe it's all predicated on some farcical, flat earthist machismo which sees men who think themselves Fangioic tyre shredders preconditioned to respond accordingly when in fact, they are not, emphatically, racing drivers.
well said that.
I don't know whether belleair has had any experience int he M5, but it sound like armchair thorising to me. The M5 is a car that CAN be driven and it can be driven aided or unaided, thus actually giving the user a choice.

isee

3,713 posts

206 months

Tuesday 28th July 2009
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belleair302 said:
derestrictor said:
belleair302 said:
In the future more and more people will hanker after cars which can be driven, not cars driven by computers.
Utter tosh, old bean.

It's called progress: if you valued some rose tinted notion of unaided motion so dearly then ditch the E34 and tame a wild stallion. Or walk!

I cannot abide this luddite bias against vehicular development on such tenuous grounds: where do you draw the line on what is and isn't acceptable intervention?

I honestly believe it's all predicated on some farcical, flat earthist machismo which sees men who think themselves Fangioic tyre shredders preconditioned to respond accordingly when in fact, they are not, emphatically, racing drivers.
Funny how cars made in the 1950's and 1960's are worth more than cars made in the 1980's and 1990's. Time will tell but spend time with your favourite specialist and ask him if he will work on an E60 in five years time!!! Getting the correct software codes from BMW is very expensive and finding electronics engineers with experience is very hard. That M6 is heading for the scrap heap by 2015....
don't know about derestrictor but provided things carry on at the same pace here, mine is going to g-power within 2 yers for the twin turbo treatment and then into a garage where it will be demoted from the daily runabout status and into a special occasion only rank.

Dracoro

8,986 posts

268 months

Tuesday 28th July 2009
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Zod said:
Oh, don't be such a bunch of pathetic ninnies - it's an amazing car that is now very cheap, so just enjoy it. 500 bhp for £30k is an utter bargain, even if you get a £5k bill in the first year.
The bill is more likely to be £10/£15k. biggrin

CraigW

12,248 posts

305 months

Tuesday 28th July 2009
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well i think der IS in a position to comment given that he has personal experience of all the cars mentioned here

Zod

35,295 posts

281 months

Tuesday 28th July 2009
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derestrictor said:
belleair302 said:
In the future more and more people will hanker after cars which can be driven, not cars driven by computers.
Utter tosh, old bean.

It's called progress: if you valued some rose tinted notion of unaided motion so dearly then ditch the E34 and tame a wild stallion. Or walk!

I cannot abide this luddite bias against vehicular development on such tenuous grounds: where do you draw the line on what is and isn't acceptable intervention?

I honestly believe it's all predicated on some farcical, flat earthist machismo which sees men who think themselves Fangioic tyre shredders preconditioned to respond accordingly when in fact, they are not, emphatically, racing drivers.
and you call me harsh! hehe

Zod

35,295 posts

281 months

Tuesday 28th July 2009
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Dracoro said:
Zod said:
Oh, don't be such a bunch of pathetic ninnies - it's an amazing car that is now very cheap, so just enjoy it. 500 bhp for £30k is an utter bargain, even if you get a £5k bill in the first year.
The bill is more likely to be £10/£15k. biggrin
No, it isn't, unless the engine blows up and I'm not even sure any of the idiots on M5board has managed to do that yet during one of their attempted "kills" on the freeway.

isee

3,713 posts

206 months

Tuesday 28th July 2009
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Zod said:
Dracoro said:
Zod said:
Oh, don't be such a bunch of pathetic ninnies - it's an amazing car that is now very cheap, so just enjoy it. 500 bhp for £30k is an utter bargain, even if you get a £5k bill in the first year.
The bill is more likely to be £10/£15k. biggrin
No, it isn't, unless the engine blows up and I'm not even sure any of the idiots on M5board has managed to do that yet during one of their attempted "kills" on the freeway.
mine would have been about that or maye slightly more even had i not had the warranty....