400SE - discharging electrics - any ideas?
400SE - discharging electrics - any ideas?
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Dragon Wedge

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44 posts

207 months

Monday 27th July 2009
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Folks - to introduce myself I am the lucky new owner of wedge-perfects much loved 400SE. Look forward to getting to know you all better as we get out and about - if ever there was a car built for driving!

Got a problem - not quite sure where to start. Car starts and runs superbly off a fully charged battery - appears to maintain its charge whilst running. Stop restart no issues. Leave it parked for a few hours - absolutely dead. Same thing with spare battery. One light pod is not fully returning to flat but lights are not on.

Anyone got any wisdom on what could be draining the system so quick?

Many Thanks

Wedg1e

27,040 posts

295 months

Monday 27th July 2009
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Clamp meter? Inline multimeter on current range?
If the non-flush pod appears to be working properly it's probably not sticking and taking current when it shouldn't be... though you could have a feel of the pod motor to see if it's warm.
Next up could be the alternator; some internal regulator faults cause the battery to discharge through the alternator, if there's a reasonable amount of current flowing it'll also feel warm (assuming you haven't just been driving it).

Bit hard to fault-find on electrics by remote control though...

jmorgan

36,010 posts

314 months

Tuesday 28th July 2009
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Could pull that light pod relay maybe and see if it still does it but in line ammeter should give the game away. Just make sure the ammeter has a decent current rating. Then pull fuses and relays until it stops on the meter.

350zwelgje

1,820 posts

291 months

Tuesday 28th July 2009
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Is perhaps the charging light (could be very dim) a bit on even when the engine is switched off with the ignition switched on? Or is it on when you are driving? Then the diode pack is very suspect and you have the issue mentioned before if the battery is ok. This diode pack can be replaced.
Alternatively you can take the alternator out and have it tested. Would not cost a lot and if not ok, normally this place can help you to fix it as well.

The solenoid on the starter can have the same effect. As mentioned before, just switching the ignition on and not starting, waiting and testing the temperature (after switching the ignition off for security....) and it is very hot, this is suspect. Sometimes cleaning helps, but often it needs to be replaced. Not to difficult if removing the starter from your wedge is an easy task (and it is not on mine).

Rob

Number 7

4,113 posts

292 months

Wednesday 29th July 2009
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Interior or boot lights staying on?

7.

Dragon Wedge

Original Poster:

44 posts

207 months

Wednesday 29th July 2009
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Thanks All - appreciate the feedback.

Will get my sleeves rooled up over the next couple of nights - better revise how to use the old multimeter!

Wedg1e

27,040 posts

295 months

Wednesday 29th July 2009
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Number 7 said:
Interior or boot lights staying on?

7.
Most wedges I've seen have the boot lamps wired to the sidelights... so they're on all the time the sidelights are lit, even with the boot closed rolleyes
...but it could be the interior candles.

rev-erend

21,623 posts

314 months

Thursday 30th July 2009
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Have a feel of the headlight lifter motors .. if they are hot then there is you problem.

GV

2,366 posts

254 months

Thursday 30th July 2009
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Could be a poor earth somewhee. Had the same problem years ago on a Cavalier. Changed the battery, alernator etc. turned out to be a poor earth...

Dragon Wedge

Original Poster:

44 posts

207 months

Friday 31st July 2009
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Identified main cause - stuck relay.
Pulled it and everything OK. Will get into the pod another day.
At least we could enjoy the sunshine today - even if we had to be back before dark!Why didn't I buy one of these things 20 years ago

Thanks to all for all tips.

!