Its not easy being green.
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Noticed yesterday in SatanCo.
Kenco coffee.
200g jar - £4.92
200g eco refill bag - £4.95
Now obviously the process is different but surely the cost of the jar is enough to offset the savings.
Anyway.
This led me to a line of odd thought, that I am now going to inflict on you.
If being environmentally friendly was neutral/cheaper to the consumer then I'd guess we'd see wholesale uptake in all sorts of things, green electricity, kenco refill bags etc etc.
But oddly I cant think of a single thing that is badged as environmentally friendly and cheaper/cost neutral.
Its like the modern version of self flagellation in the name of a big green eco god.
Perhaps obvious but there we are.
Kenco coffee.
200g jar - £4.92
200g eco refill bag - £4.95
Now obviously the process is different but surely the cost of the jar is enough to offset the savings.
Anyway.
This led me to a line of odd thought, that I am now going to inflict on you.
If being environmentally friendly was neutral/cheaper to the consumer then I'd guess we'd see wholesale uptake in all sorts of things, green electricity, kenco refill bags etc etc.
But oddly I cant think of a single thing that is badged as environmentally friendly and cheaper/cost neutral.
Its like the modern version of self flagellation in the name of a big green eco god.
Perhaps obvious but there we are.
mechsympathy said:
Plotloss said:
Its like the modern version of self flagellation in the name of a big green eco god.
Bingo. Would sir like this hair* shirt to match the guilt trip? *Although these days it'll be hemp.
My old man used to refer to such people people having a 'hair shirt complex' .. I think it sums up the green movement quite well
Green products and services are merely there to allow for an increase in the margins of the operating companies in the first place. They have played around with the size of food packets, portions and overall quality to such a degree we are somewhat reluctant to accept yet another change.
But if they can get away with making their product 'green' they can make it smaller, use less artificial components and ingredients and then still charge more. Its a stunningly brilliant business model and one that cannot be questioned - to do means you are the anti-Christ. Fantastic, I just wonder why I didn't invent it!
Its just one big con.
If you really want to go 'green' try consuming less, though there is no profit in that so its never going to happen.
But if they can get away with making their product 'green' they can make it smaller, use less artificial components and ingredients and then still charge more. Its a stunningly brilliant business model and one that cannot be questioned - to do means you are the anti-Christ. Fantastic, I just wonder why I didn't invent it!
Its just one big con.
If you really want to go 'green' try consuming less, though there is no profit in that so its never going to happen.
.. it could be argued that the overall intention is positive yet it seems to be endorsed and supported by so many who seem to want nothing better than point their 'green credentials' at you as if in some way they are superior.
Perhaps we can point them all in the direction of the American car thread. It's like a time loop in there...Few men enter.. no man leaves.
Perhaps we can point them all in the direction of the American car thread. It's like a time loop in there...Few men enter.. no man leaves.
Plotloss said:
But oddly I cant think of a single thing that is badged as environmentally friendly and cheaper/cost neutral.
CVM tells me that concentrated fabric conditioner works out cheaper and is enironmentally mre responsible than the normal stuff - less embodied energy due to packaging, delivery, etcsleep envy said:
Plotloss said:
But oddly I cant think of a single thing that is badged as environmentally friendly and cheaper/cost neutral.
CVM tells me that concentrated fabric conditioner works out cheaper and is enironmentally mre responsible than the normal stuff - less embodied energy due to packaging, delivery, etc
off_again said:
If you really want to go 'green' try consuming less, though there is no profit in that so its never going to happen.
I dont particular want to hug a bunny, well certainly not if it costs more, especially when its bloody obvious its a margin maker rather than truly green.Much like public transport really, if the train to London was £5 rather than £11 I suspect more people might use it.
Cara Van Man said:
Plotloss said:
Much like public transport really, if the train to London was £5 rather than £11 I suspect more people might use it.
Indeed.Why would I want to go on a train/bus/rickshaw if it is cheaper and more convenient to do the journey by car (including petrol and parking)?
Cheaper by Phantom.
Cara Van Man said:
Why would I want to go on a train/bus/rickshaw if it is cheaper and more convenient to do the journey by car (including petrol and parking)?
Unfortunately that's the rallying cry of the tax-fans. They indicate that its still too cheap to use a car and therefore we need to add further costs, tax and complications before we can truly do something. I don't subscribe to this way of thinking - I am more of a carrot rather than stick kinda man.
Make public transport fair, reasonable, fast and efficient - oh and cheap - and people might actually use it. Have eco products that are cheaper than the competitors (due to tax, production costs or even financial rebates, I dont care) and low and behold we start to move towards a more sustainable future. Of course, given the high cost of public transport there is only one future.....
Oh, and didn't mean to come across as being a bit aggressive - more of a rhetorical 'you' rather than actually you if you see what I mean.
off_again said:
Make public transport fair, reasonable, fast and efficient - oh and cheap - and people might actually use it.
that's the thing - they can'ttherefore to make it competitive in comparison to driving they wallop the motorist
nick - sounds like a load of s
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