GTO-3R v M400 Gear Linkage
Discussion
I've found the gearchange on the earlier 3R models very clunky and a little difficult to find the gears relative to the M400 gear linkage you get on the later model cars.
That said, I've not driven either car for very long - I'd welcome some comment from those in the know - is the older model gear linkage something you get used to quite quickly, or is one of those things you have to put up with??
That said, I've not driven either car for very long - I'd welcome some comment from those in the know - is the older model gear linkage something you get used to quite quickly, or is one of those things you have to put up with??
mdrc said:
I've found the gearchange on the earlier 3R models very clunky and a little difficult to find the gears relative to the M400 gear linkage you get on the later model cars.
That said, I've not driven either car for very long - I'd welcome some comment from those in the know - is the older model gear linkage something you get used to quite quickly, or is one of those things you have to put up with??
I've had both,the M400 is better but my 3R linkage wasn't anywhere near as bad as some of the others I drove before I purchased it.I'd imagine with the nature of the Nobles they vary a lot from car to car.That said, I've not driven either car for very long - I'd welcome some comment from those in the know - is the older model gear linkage something you get used to quite quickly, or is one of those things you have to put up with??
The earlier 3R's had the old ST200 linkages I believe and these are woeful.I had mine converted to M400 linkage kit and the difference is night and day, especially when pressing on.
Don't quote me but I'm told that around chassis 35/36 they went to the ST220 linkage which was better.
Don't quote me but I'm told that around chassis 35/36 they went to the ST220 linkage which was better.
GTO3 / GTO3R with 6-speed all had a linkage system with a rod and cables, M400 and converted 3's use the ST220 shifter with cables. You should be able to tell by the position of the gearlever, if it's central in the tunnel then it will be M400 type, if it's offset towards the drivers side of the tunnel then it's the original.
Both types are in the US build manual.
Kevin
Both types are in the US build manual.
Kevin
sean_goodman said:
i must be lucky, i find my 3r gear linkage really good, sharp, positive and like a rifle bolt.
from the feel of mine i would not even entertain changing it.
have heard some are good and some not so good, i guess i must be lucky,
Me too. Mine even "clacks" if I want it to - like a Ferrari gated changer from the feel of mine i would not even entertain changing it.
have heard some are good and some not so good, i guess i must be lucky,
I initially found the change on my 3R a major let down to the car but after `acclimatization` it doesn`t doesn`t become such a problem. The major down side is that you need to careful if you change quickly or you might get a wrong gear (3rd instead of 5th etc) - which could have very expensive results... I`ve thought of trying to fabricate a Ferrari style `open` gate in the car with a polished aluminium plate milled out for the `tracks` - but there are other jobs on the car to do first before I look too deeply into that option. (I think the main problem would be sealing the lever assembly as it would no longer have a gaiter).
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