Rover V8 fitting remote filter HELP!!?

[dirtyboy]

Hi guys and galls, just got a mocal remote oil kit for my rv8 engined car. I have fitted the take off plate, and mounted the filter head up on the inner wing and put all the necessary pipe work on!

However the instructions i got with the kit were rather vague, do I now simply fill the engine back up with oil and assume it pumps round or is there a trick to it.

I did this n ran the engine for afew seconds and took the top union off that goes into the filter head but no sign of oil, and I dont want to run it dry!
thanks in advance as always!

[stevieturbo]

remove the dizzy and prime the system with a drill and suitable tool.

http://www.v8forum.co.uk/forum/index.php

[GreenV8S]

Just fill it and start it as normal, but bear in mind that if you have a pre-serpentine front cover the oil pump will probably have drained while you were working on it and this pump is notoriously poor at self priming. If it won't come up to pressure within thirty seconds or so at fast idle you will need to prime the pump. Luckily for you it's possible to do this via the remote take-off you just fitted, by undoing one of the hose unions and pouring oil into both sides (one side will lead back to the pump, the other will lead to the engine).

[dirtyboy]

i have looked on the site and it does not really talk about remote filters.
I dont really want to remove the dizzy as its all timed up nicely.

Will it work if i remove the remote filter hoses at the top and then pour oil down them until the oil pump is full, then fill the filter with oil too and screw that back on??? thanks

[dirtyboy]

GreenV8S said:

Just fill it and start it as normal, but bear in mind that if you have a pre-serpentine front cover the oil pump will probably have drained while you were working on it and this pump is notoriously poor at self priming. If it won't come up to pressure within thirty seconds or so at fast idle you will need to prime the pump. Luckily for you it's possible to do this via the remote take-off you just fitted, by undoing one of the hose unions and pouring oil into both sides (one side will lead back to the pump, the other will lead to the engine).

i must have written my reply as you were posting this, ok ill give that a go, cheers again!

[eliot]

Only thing I would add is to ensure you have the feed (direction) of the oil the correct way around. There should be an arrow on the head showing the direction.

[dirtyboy]

cheers for the help guys. I tried it by pooring oil down both the pipes of the remote filter, however only one would fill up to the top, so i guess the other one in effect was just filling up the sump. This would lead me to belive the pump actually sucks the oil through the filter, not pumps it in ???
anyway I ran it for 10 seconds or so and it sounded ok, but i dont have a working oil pressure guage yet. I got one off flea bay but it entails fitting a huge pressure sender which i simply dont have room for, unless of course i want no steering rack lol, so that is going back! so getting a guage that works is the next thing on the agenda !

[stevieturbo]

dirtyboy said:

cheers for the help guys. I tried it by pooring oil down both the pipes of the remote filter, however only one would fill up to the top, so i guess the other one in effect was just filling up the sump. This would lead me to belive the pump actually sucks the oil through the filter, not pumps it in ???
anyway I ran it for 10 seconds or so and it sounded ok, but i dont have a working oil pressure guage yet. I got one off flea bay but it entails fitting a huge pressure sender which i simply dont have room for, unless of course i want no steering rack lol, so that is going back! so getting a guage that works is the next thing on the agenda !

The oil sucks from the sump, then pumps to the filter.

[dirtyboy]

stevieturbo said:

dirtyboy said:

cheers for the help guys. I tried it by pooring oil down both the pipes of the remote filter, however only one would fill up to the top, so i guess the other one in effect was just filling up the sump. This would lead me to belive the pump actually sucks the oil through the filter, not pumps it in ???
anyway I ran it for 10 seconds or so and it sounded ok, but i dont have a working oil pressure guage yet. I got one off flea bay but it entails fitting a huge pressure sender which i simply dont have room for, unless of course i want no steering rack lol, so that is going back! so getting a guage that works is the next thing on the agenda !

The oil sucks from the sump, then pumps to the filter.

well that explains that one then lol, i thought i was going mad thanks

[GreenV8S]

If you don't have an oil pressure gauge *or* an oil pressure switch, then you're playing with fire. In the short term you could look for oil being pumped around the rockers.

[dirtyboy]

i think your proably right. I have an oil pressure switch but not sure how to wire a warning light into this, can anyone shed any light on this for me, thanks

[dirtyboy]

also just a thought, i want to fit an electronic oil pressure guage, thus I need the sender. I dont have room for it on the take off plate, so could I have the remote filter housing tapped and the pressure sender put on there, thanks

[Pigeon]

Wiring the switch for the light is easy. Wire from ignition-controlled live to bulb, wire from bulb to tag on switch, that's it.

You can screw a T-piece into where the switch goes and mount both the switch and the sender on that.

[GreenV8S]

The oil pressure switch will be normally-closed, and it'll open when there is oil pressure. So simply connect it between your warning light and earth.

There will be a boss for pressure senders on the oil pump housing, but if you prefer to tap the filter head that would work too.

[dirtyboy]

ok thanks for the help, ill give it a whirl, thanks

[dirtyboy]

wired up the pressure light and that worked ok. But still need a pressure guage.

Like I said there no room for the pressure sender at the bottom, so was going to tap the remote filter head but space seems at a premium up there too.]

Would this work, if I used a piece of steel tubing, drilled a hole in it and welded a nut over the top to mount the pressure sender in, then cut one of the rubber hoses to the remote filter head in 2 and mounted it effectively in line between the 2 pieces . Or would this interupt the oil flow too much?? thanks

[Tony427]

The in line bodge is not recomended if you are running oil pressure over 15 psi as I will bet 10 whole pence that just when you need that oil pressure the jubilee clips holding the flexible to the steel tube will pop off and deposit all that lovely, warm, expensive, high pressure oil over the road whilst your bearings hammer themselves into oblivion.

Is it possible to drill and tap the correct BSP thread into the take off plate, or even get a set of threaded connectors from Mocal to do the job?

I ended up with a Xmas tree affair from Mocal for my Lexus engined Cobra with two extension pieces, an oil pressure switch, an oil pressure guage and oil feeds for two turbos coming off the original oil pressure switch outlet.

Cheers,

Tony

[dirtyboy]

Tony427 said:

The in line bodge is not recomended if you are running oil pressure over 15 psi as I will bet 10 whole pence that just when you need that oil pressure the jubilee clips holding the flexible to the steel tube will pop off and deposit all that lovely, warm, expensive, high pressure oil over the road whilst your bearings hammer themselves into oblivion.

Is it possible to drill and tap the correct BSP thread into the take off plate, or even get a set of threaded connectors from Mocal to do the job?

I ended up with a Xmas tree affair from Mocal for my Lexus engined Cobra with two extension pieces, an oil pressure switch, an oil pressure guage and oil feeds for two turbos coming off the original oil pressure switch outlet.

Cheers,

Tony

I thought you might say that lol. yea I guess i will have to get the remote head tapped then have the sender off down the side somewhere with extensions. There really i no room at the take off plate side as its in an mgb, so as you can imagine space it at a premium, and the steering rack occupies the space directly under the take off, thanks