Two piece roof section?
Two piece roof section?
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B19GRR

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1,980 posts

280 months

Sunday 21st December 2003
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Hey all,

Not sure if I dreamt this but doesn't the S have a two piece roof? If so how come the Griff doesn't? It strikes me as being a pretty damn sensible idea given teh difficulties in stowing the roof in the boot.

As an alternative to a full two piece, how about some cunning hinge mechanism so it can at least fold in half for easier stowage? Perhaps something cunning of rht eguys at Leven to come up with?

Anyone cut their roof in half yet?

Cheers,
Rob

joolzb

3,549 posts

273 months

Sunday 21st December 2003
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Yeah the S does have a 2 piece roof. Having owned both I have to say that I prefer the one piece design of the Griff, once you've got used to the way it's got to be stored in the boot it's dead simple aslong as you've not got anything else in there. It takes far less time to remove and refit too.

angua

17 posts

280 months

Sunday 21st December 2003
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I never understand this thing about "can never get anything in the boot except the roof" - I've been weekly shopping with my griff, managed to get it all in with the roof, been on holiday - managed to get everything in - albeit in a squashy suitcase.
Am I the only one with a tardis griff boot - or are all you blokeys not trying ?

simpo two

91,436 posts

289 months

Sunday 21st December 2003
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Having had both I prefer the two-piece version as on the S. You can stand behind the car, place the panels vertically in the slots, push the whole thing forwards and, if you're lucky, the fronts go straight into the notches. Conversely the single panel roof is a bit of a fight if you use the storage bag. Getting it in single handed is a strggle I could do without.

B19GRR

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Sunday 21st December 2003
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angua said:
I never understand this thing about "can never get anything in the boot except the roof"


Perhaps Simon at Fernhurst demonstrated it incorrectly but it seems a bit daft to have to wedge it in diagonally into the boot.

As for getting it on and off, I don't know. I seem to remember the roof on the Chimaera I rented a few years back wasn't too hard. So maybe there's something in the hinge idea, assuming they're some kind of sprung hinge so that the roof becomes rigid in effect once opened. Probably have to solve some leak issues though

cheers,
Rob

simpo two

91,436 posts

289 months

Sunday 21st December 2003
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B19GRR said:
Perhaps Simon at Fernhurst demonstrated it incorrectly but it seems a bit daft to have to wedge it in diagonally into the boot...As for getting it on and off, I don't know. I seem to remember the roof on the Chimaera I rented a few years back wasn't too hard.

Diagonal? In my experience, using the roof bag and if you leave the spacesaver spare in, it is Impossible to do it at all. I used to take the spacesaver out, put the panel in, then put the tyre back in front - but of course it would roll from side to side. Now I leave it in the garage and use Tyre-Weld instead.
Re the Chimp comparison, they have bigger boots which I guess explains the difference!
(If you don't use the roof bag you'll get a shiny patch in the fabric where it rubs on the fuel tank)

joolzb

3,549 posts

273 months

Sunday 21st December 2003
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angua said:
I never understand this thing about "can never get anything in the boot except the roof"

I wasn't really saying that as you're right there is still plenty of room with the roof stored. It's just easier to get stuff in there once the roof is in rather than trying to fit the roof in around what other stuff you're already carrying (IMO).

As for the roof storage cover, I don't think I've got one of those

981 GRM

15 posts

268 months

Sunday 21st December 2003
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never had a problem - the Griff boot is huge compared to a Z3 or any other hairdressers car.

2 sheds

2,529 posts

308 months

Sunday 21st December 2003
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I believe Richard Thorpe (RT Racing) produced a 2 piece Griffith roof many years ago, but there wasn't much interest, so he halted production.
Tim

simpo two

91,436 posts

289 months

Sunday 21st December 2003
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2 sheds said:
I believe Richard Thorpe (RT Racing) produced a 2 piece Griffith roof many years ago, but there wasn't much interest, so he halted production.
Tim

Yes, it was in the Wedge Automotive catalogue (his previous company I think). If my roof needed replacing I'd seriously consider it.

B19GRR

Original Poster:

1,980 posts

280 months

Sunday 21st December 2003
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simpo two said:

Re the Chimp comparison, they have bigger boots which I guess explains the difference!


No, no, I just meant it wasn't difficult takng the roof section out off the chim, no doubt an identiacl experience to a griff. I didn't bother putting the roof in the chims boot, just left it at home while I nipped out for a blast.

2 sheds said:

I believe Richard Thorpe (RT Racing) produced a 2 piece Griffith roof many years ago, but there wasn't much interest, so he halted production.
Tim


See, I knew I wouldn't have come up with a good, original idea

Cheers,
Rob

leventech

207 posts

294 months

Monday 22nd December 2003
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Well it looks like Christmas has come early for some of you. I just happened to have picked up yesterday (yes we do work on Sundays!)the prototype of our new 2 piece 'light weight & easy to stow' roof for Griffith/Chimaera. This first prototype is very close to the idea and works so well I expect it to be on the development car and under test without any great delay. As with all our products I want to do a lot of checking and testing before it is available so please watch our web site for more details and progress.

Simon

mrmaggit

10,146 posts

272 months

Monday 22nd December 2003
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Coooooooo. Telepathy or what?

simpo two

91,436 posts

289 months

Monday 22nd December 2003
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leventech said:
our new 2 piece 'light weight & easy to stow' roof for Griffith/Chimaera.

Not machined out of ally by any chance?

leventech

207 posts

294 months

Monday 22nd December 2003
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Not machined from solid alloy (but nice thought!) but GRP or Carbon Fibre depending on the finish/weight requirement and size of your wallet!

bjwoods

5,018 posts

308 months

Monday 22nd December 2003
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Want one...

But I would like it finished in the same material/colour as my existing roof. (blue/mohair?)

Did see a wedge(rt) one in the past on a car in a dealers, and have wanted one since.

B

B19GRR

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1,980 posts

280 months

Monday 22nd December 2003
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WooHooo!!

Must buy a Griff now so that I can spend even more moeny with Leven

Cheers,
Rob

leventech

207 posts

294 months

Monday 22nd December 2003
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The outside finish can be to the customers requirement (the customer is always right). We guess, and that is all it is at this stage, that the carbon fibre will be satin (not shiny) with the weave showing. The GRP will come satin black (to keep cost down). The customer can then keep it black if there is black hood, Mohair cover black or the colour to match the hood or get it painted to match the car colour like a Tuscan. You choose it's your roof & your car.

mrmaggit

10,146 posts

272 months

Monday 22nd December 2003
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Any idea of costs yet?

BTW, the rest of the dash bits look brill, just saving for a lever set at the moment.

leventech

207 posts

294 months

Monday 22nd December 2003
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Prices and other details yet to be confrmed however it will be less than the current one-piece version.