Indicating Left

[angusc43]

Since when did indicating left mean "I am now turing left" rather than "Warning I am going to turn left soon"?

When cycling into work I lose count of the people who;

(a) Sit on a red light for minutes at the head of a traffic queue with no indicator on
(b) Sit on an amber light, still with no indicator on
(c) Select first when the light goes green, release the clutch, start moving forward, start turning the wheel left and only then indicate left

Why? Do they suddenly have an immediate urge to go left and HAVE to obey? Are the talking part in some cryptic guessing game? What exactly is going through their heads?

[Fetchez la vache]

angusc43 said:

What exactly is going through their heads?

"That Cyclist has a nice bum"?

[shakotan]

angusc43 said:

Since when did indicating left mean "I am now turing left" rather than "Warning I am going to turn left soon"?

When cycling into work I lose count of the people who;

(a) Sit on a red light for minutes at the head of a traffic queue with no indicator on
(b) Sit on an amber light, still with no indicator on
(c) Select first when the light goes green, release the clutch, start moving forward, start turning the wheel left and only then indicate left

Why? Do they suddenly have an immediate urge to go left and HAVE to obey? Are the talking part in some cryptic guessing game? What exactly is going through their heads?

I would counter this with...

When driving home, I lose count of the cyclists who;

(a) Ignore the fact I'm sitting at a red light with my left-hand indicator on.
(b) Ignore the fact that I'm sitting at a red light with my left-hand indicator on, in a left turn only filter lane.
(c) Still try and undertake me to go straight ahead when the lights so green, and then moan and grizzle when I beep them for cutting across me when I'm trying to turn.

Why? The lane is left turn only, with a straight across lane to my right. Do they think I'm 86, and have left my indicator on and selected the incorrect lane by accident? What exactly is going through their heads?

[mchammer89]

shakotan said:

angusc43 said:

Since when did indicating left mean "I am now turing left" rather than "Warning I am going to turn left soon"?

When cycling into work I lose count of the people who;

(a) Sit on a red light for minutes at the head of a traffic queue with no indicator on
(b) Sit on an amber light, still with no indicator on
(c) Select first when the light goes green, release the clutch, start moving forward, start turning the wheel left and only then indicate left

Why? Do they suddenly have an immediate urge to go left and HAVE to obey? Are the talking part in some cryptic guessing game? What exactly is going through their heads?

I would counter this with...

When driving home, I lose count of the cyclists who;

(a) Ignore the fact I'm sitting at a red light with my left-hand indicator on.
(b) Ignore the fact that I'm sitting at a red light with my left-hand indicator on, in a left turn only filter lane.
(c) Still try and undertake me to go straight ahead when the lights so green, and then moan and grizzle when I beep them for cutting across me when I'm trying to turn.

Why? The lane is left turn only, with a straight across lane to my right. Do they think I'm 86, and have left my indicator on and selected the incorrect lane by accident? What exactly is going through their heads?

In your situation the cyclist is at fault and no one can argue with that, however the OP is talking (I presume) about lanes that aren't left turn only, I agree with him, it's right up there with people who blast past you, slam on the brakes and turn left right in front of you forcing you to slow right down or stop, pure stupidity/impatience.

[shakotan]

mchammer89 said:

shakotan said:

angusc43 said:

Since when did indicating left mean "I am now turing left" rather than "Warning I am going to turn left soon"?

When cycling into work I lose count of the people who;

(a) Sit on a red light for minutes at the head of a traffic queue with no indicator on
(b) Sit on an amber light, still with no indicator on
(c) Select first when the light goes green, release the clutch, start moving forward, start turning the wheel left and only then indicate left

Why? Do they suddenly have an immediate urge to go left and HAVE to obey? Are the talking part in some cryptic guessing game? What exactly is going through their heads?

I would counter this with...

When driving home, I lose count of the cyclists who;

(a) Ignore the fact I'm sitting at a red light with my left-hand indicator on.
(b) Ignore the fact that I'm sitting at a red light with my left-hand indicator on, in a left turn only filter lane.
(c) Still try and undertake me to go straight ahead when the lights so green, and then moan and grizzle when I beep them for cutting across me when I'm trying to turn.

Why? The lane is left turn only, with a straight across lane to my right. Do they think I'm 86, and have left my indicator on and selected the incorrect lane by accident? What exactly is going through their heads?

In your situation the cyclist is at fault and no one can argue with that, however the OP is talking (I presume) about lanes that aren't left turn only, I agree with him, it's right up there with people who blast past you, slam on the brakes and turn left right in front of you forcing you to slow right down or stop, pure stupidity/impatience.

I never said the motorist wasn't at fault in the OP, merely demonstrating that both sides of the cyclist/motorist relationship can be at fault.

[angusc43]

mchammer89 said:

shakotan said:

angusc43 said:

Since when did indicating left mean "I am now turing left" rather than "Warning I am going to turn left soon"?

When cycling into work I lose count of the people who;

(a) Sit on a red light for minutes at the head of a traffic queue with no indicator on
(b) Sit on an amber light, still with no indicator on
(c) Select first when the light goes green, release the clutch, start moving forward, start turning the wheel left and only then indicate left

Why? Do they suddenly have an immediate urge to go left and HAVE to obey? Are the talking part in some cryptic guessing game? What exactly is going through their heads?

I would counter this with...

When driving home, I lose count of the cyclists who;

(a) Ignore the fact I'm sitting at a red light with my left-hand indicator on.
(b) Ignore the fact that I'm sitting at a red light with my left-hand indicator on, in a left turn only filter lane.
(c) Still try and undertake me to go straight ahead when the lights so green, and then moan and grizzle when I beep them for cutting across me when I'm trying to turn.

Why? The lane is left turn only, with a straight across lane to my right. Do they think I'm 86, and have left my indicator on and selected the incorrect lane by accident? What exactly is going through their heads?

In your situation the cyclist is at fault and no one can argue with that, however the OP is talking (I presume) about lanes that aren't left turn only, I agree with him, it's right up there with people who blast past you, slam on the brakes and turn left right in front of you forcing you to slow right down or stop, pure stupidity/impatience.

Yeah, that was pretty much my point really - both actions are a bit inconsiderate/unnecessary/don't add anything positive to life/could be avoided if the motorists in question spent - ooh 0.5 seconds - thinking about other road users.

[mchammer89]

shakotan said:

mchammer89 said:

shakotan said:

angusc43 said:

Since when did indicating left mean "I am now turing left" rather than "Warning I am going to turn left soon"?

When cycling into work I lose count of the people who;

(a) Sit on a red light for minutes at the head of a traffic queue with no indicator on
(b) Sit on an amber light, still with no indicator on
(c) Select first when the light goes green, release the clutch, start moving forward, start turning the wheel left and only then indicate left

Why? Do they suddenly have an immediate urge to go left and HAVE to obey? Are the talking part in some cryptic guessing game? What exactly is going through their heads?

I would counter this with...

When driving home, I lose count of the cyclists who;

(a) Ignore the fact I'm sitting at a red light with my left-hand indicator on.
(b) Ignore the fact that I'm sitting at a red light with my left-hand indicator on, in a left turn only filter lane.
(c) Still try and undertake me to go straight ahead when the lights so green, and then moan and grizzle when I beep them for cutting across me when I'm trying to turn.

Why? The lane is left turn only, with a straight across lane to my right. Do they think I'm 86, and have left my indicator on and selected the incorrect lane by accident? What exactly is going through their heads?

In your situation the cyclist is at fault and no one can argue with that, however the OP is talking (I presume) about lanes that aren't left turn only, I agree with him, it's right up there with people who blast past you, slam on the brakes and turn left right in front of you forcing you to slow right down or stop, pure stupidity/impatience.

I never said the motorist wasn't at fault in the OP, merely demonstrating that both sides of the cyclist/motorist relationship can be at fault.

Well I don't think you'll find anyone stubborn or stupid enough to say that there aren't a load of dhead cyclists out there

[angusc43]

mchammer89 said:

shakotan said:

mchammer89 said:

shakotan said:

angusc43 said:

Since when did indicating left mean "I am now turing left" rather than "Warning I am going to turn left soon"?

When cycling into work I lose count of the people who;

(a) Sit on a red light for minutes at the head of a traffic queue with no indicator on
(b) Sit on an amber light, still with no indicator on
(c) Select first when the light goes green, release the clutch, start moving forward, start turning the wheel left and only then indicate left

Why? Do they suddenly have an immediate urge to go left and HAVE to obey? Are the talking part in some cryptic guessing game? What exactly is going through their heads?

I would counter this with...

When driving home, I lose count of the cyclists who;

(a) Ignore the fact I'm sitting at a red light with my left-hand indicator on.
(b) Ignore the fact that I'm sitting at a red light with my left-hand indicator on, in a left turn only filter lane.
(c) Still try and undertake me to go straight ahead when the lights so green, and then moan and grizzle when I beep them for cutting across me when I'm trying to turn.

Why? The lane is left turn only, with a straight across lane to my right. Do they think I'm 86, and have left my indicator on and selected the incorrect lane by accident? What exactly is going through their heads?

In your situation the cyclist is at fault and no one can argue with that, however the OP is talking (I presume) about lanes that aren't left turn only, I agree with him, it's right up there with people who blast past you, slam on the brakes and turn left right in front of you forcing you to slow right down or stop, pure stupidity/impatience.

I never said the motorist wasn't at fault in the OP, merely demonstrating that both sides of the cyclist/motorist relationship can be at fault.

Well I don't think you'll find anyone stubborn or stupid enough to say that there aren't a load of dhead cyclists out there

Yup loads of 'em. In terms of number of incidents per mile (when on my bike) cyslists and pedestrians are near the top of the list. There are some real kamikaze scooter riders too. The four wheeled people are next. I am, of course, blameless.