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Oily Nails

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2,932 posts

216 months

Tuesday 11th August 2009
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Just bought the final series box set from Amazon.

Excellent TV series and a great Film.

For those who don't know by todays standards you would have to mix;
"West Wing" with "ER" with a dollop of "Friends" and set it againts the Korean War (Police Action wink ) and that is MASH biggrin

I wasn't around when it first aired but watched it on the Paramount Comedy Channel and was hooked.

Nobaccymaccy

572 posts

218 months

Tuesday 11th August 2009
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But the TV series went on far too long and got less funny IMO.
You missed a comparison ( for the older ones among us )- F Troop with helicopters .

Mutley

3,178 posts

275 months

Tuesday 11th August 2009
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A Brilliant show, one of my favourites.

Series 1-6 were the best, 7-11 seemed to drag it out too much, but the stories were slightly more harder hitting and you got some brilliant one like Dreams

Series 1 repeated the film/book too much, and once Burns had gone the overdone childness went, and stepped up as you had a swamp rat who was willing to join in rather than complain/report etc.

Eric Mc

124,064 posts

281 months

Tuesday 11th August 2009
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Nobaccymaccy said:
But the TV series went on far too long and got less funny IMO.
You missed a comparison ( for the older ones among us )- F Troop with helicopters .
Blimey "F-Troop" - I'd almost forgotten about that.

Having said that, I can suddenly hear the theme tune. Now, where has that been lurking in my brain?

Matt172

12,415 posts

260 months

Tuesday 11th August 2009
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M*A*S*H is one of my favorite series, can sit and watch it for hours, I remember as a kid being allowed to sit up with Dad and watch it

The Hypno-Toad

12,934 posts

221 months

Tuesday 11th August 2009
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I catch the occasional one on Comedy Central. Certainly towards the end Alan Alda seemed to give all pretense of being in the army with regard to his haircut etc. Couple of really good episodes but towards the end it became all about cute Korean kids and how tormented poor Hawkeye had become.

However when I was young I didn't realise what a cute bum Hotlips had...

Eric Mc

124,064 posts

281 months

Tuesday 11th August 2009
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A quick Google reveals that Ms Switt (Hot Lips) is now 72!!

The Hypno-Toad

12,934 posts

221 months

Tuesday 11th August 2009
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Eric Mc said:
A quick Google reveals that Ms Switt (Hot Lips) is now 72!!
Yeah fair enough but most of those shows were filmed in the early 70's so she was 40 then which makes it okay......just.

KJR

795 posts

281 months

Tuesday 11th August 2009
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Oily Nails said:
Just bought the final series box set from Amazon.
Out off curiosity, does it include the "laughter track" = US version ?

Mutley

3,178 posts

275 months

Tuesday 11th August 2009
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KJR said:
Oily Nails said:
Just bought the final series box set from Amazon.
Out off curiosity, does it include the "laughter track" = US version ?
Most of the UK bought ones you can turn them off, in later series you have to turn them on.

I hate the bloody thing automatically being on

Oily Nails

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2,932 posts

216 months

Tuesday 11th August 2009
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KJR said:
Oily Nails said:
Just bought the final series box set from Amazon.
Out off curiosity, does it include the "laughter track" = US version ?
You can turn it off on a most of them

Eric Mc

124,064 posts

281 months

Wednesday 12th August 2009
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Back in the 70s, I used to watch it on either BBC or RTE (Ireland). The Beeb's version was without the canned laughter - the RTE version retained it. The BBC version was actually funnier and more poignant.

Mutley

3,178 posts

275 months

Wednesday 12th August 2009
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Do you think that it was because you as the viewer could decide what was funnier?

I got into MASH during the very early 80's, probably about series 9 or 10. And i always recall thinking it was a dark funny (well I was 10) and there was no laugh track. I later watched repeats and the laugh track was included, and it put me off the show for a while.

pkitchen

1,747 posts

225 months

Wednesday 12th August 2009
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Great theme tune toobounce

DrTre

12,957 posts

248 months

Wednesday 12th August 2009
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MASH is the first thing I think of when I hear/read people saying Americans can't do subtle humour/black humour/self effacing humour/ humour full stop.

Genius.

Eric Mc

124,064 posts

281 months

Thursday 13th August 2009
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DrTre said:
MASH is the first thing I think of when I hear/read people saying Americans can't do subtle humour/black humour/self effacing humour/ humour full stop.

Genius.
Of course they can.

MASH was at its best between 1972 and about 1978. It really gained momentum because the anti-war and anti-authoritarian views expressed chimed with a large portion of the American population during that period. Although set in the Korean War, it's sarcasm and humour was aimed squarely at America's involvement in Vietnam.

By the time it ended in 1983 America had changed a lot. Reagan was in power and the hatred for things miltary was beginning to diminish. One of Reagan's 1980 election calls was "Making America Great Again" and it became far less PC to be knocking military personnel. MASH ended at the right time.

MASH is one of the odd situations where a spin-off TV series from a movie was superior to the movie.

DrTre

12,957 posts

248 months

Thursday 13th August 2009
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Eric Mc said:
MASH is one of the odd situations where a spin-off TV series from a movie was superior to the movie.
I agree with everything but that...I wouldn't like to pick one over the other, they're actually pretty different animals except for the "set up".

Book's pretty good too, although I've not read the follow up(s?).

Eric Mc

124,064 posts

281 months

Thursday 13th August 2009
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DrTre said:
Eric Mc said:
MASH is one of the odd situations where a spin-off TV series from a movie was superior to the movie.
I agree with everything but that...I wouldn't like to pick one over the other, they're actually pretty different animals except for the "set up".

Book's pretty good too, although I've not read the follow up(s?).
I found the film totally depressing - being that one of the main themes of the film was how and when one of the characters was going to kill himself. Indeed, that plot line gave rise to the theme tune, "Suicide is Painless".

What always amazed me is why the film theme tune wasn't released as a single (and went to No.1 in the charts) eleven years after the film itself was released.
Of course, because of the nature of the lyrics, the sung version of the theme was never used in the TV series.

aclivity

4,072 posts

204 months

Thursday 13th August 2009
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The finale episode of the last series still stays with me as one of the greatest (and most troubling) moments of TV. The bit with Hawkeye in the bus, and the noisy "chicken" still reduces me to a quivering wreck.

IIRC the third highest TV viewing figures or something like that?

Mutley

3,178 posts

275 months

Thursday 13th August 2009
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DrTre said:
Eric Mc said:
MASH is one of the odd situations where a spin-off TV series from a movie was superior to the movie.
I agree with everything but that...I wouldn't like to pick one over the other, they're actually pretty different animals except for the "set up".
The Book/Film and TV show are all totally different and aimed at different audiences, while the film is faithful to the book and is a great visualisation of it, the film is a slight side step and puts the book into chronological order and irons out/exagerates a fair bit. The TV show is a giant side step further.

DrTre said:
Book's pretty good too, although I've not read the follow up(s?).
Don't bother with the 'follow up' books unles it's MASH Goes to Maine the only true sequel, the rest just use charachters from the book/movie and put them is silly stories, they were purely a cash in, spent too much cash trying to locate them (only missing one now)