Broken manifolds, clutch and turbo's :)

[hollowpockets]

Well guys in my battle to fix my car using my own two hands things seem to be progressing finally, engine is out, turbo's away for refurb and clutch is off for an exchange/upgrade from helix.

My turbos are with universal turbo's being refurbed and upgraded but they both had damaged blade tips from what i can only asume is bits of broken manifold, looking inside the manifolds both have quite bad cracks and feel very rough.

I've spoken to noble and the options are 'standard' circa £300 or some new 'einkel' material alternatives which can handle heat far better for circe £800 a piece, has anyone upgraded to these or does anyone know of further alternatives on the market?

The clutch problem turned out to be on the centre plate, part of the metal plate which retains the springs broke off allowing two springs to freely move around between the fingers and the friction material, although the rest of the clutch itself looks in good condition with very little wear.

Hopefully two weeks and she'll be rolling again

Graham

[Lakelord]

hollowpockets said:

I've spoken to noble and the options are 'standard' circa £300 or some new 'einkel' material alternatives which can handle heat far better for circe £800 a piece, has anyone upgraded to these or does anyone know of further alternatives on the market?

Graham,
Not had any experience of them myself however here's further info from the Noble Website...

Inconel sport manifolds:

For those customers that are more 'track' Orientated we have also produced a 'sport' version which is fabricated in Inconel.

The benefits and properties of Inconel:

Inconel alloy is an oxidation and corrosion resistant material well suited for service in extreme environments. When heated Inconel forms a thick, stable, passivating oxide layer which protects the surface from further attack. Inconel retains strength over a wide temperature range, attractive for high temperature applications where aluminium and steel would succumb to creep as a result of thermally induced crystal vacancies.

So, if you are going to track the car a lot and you have the budget for it, go for it.

[Adrian W]

I have a pair of M400 manifolds that look perfect that i could sellif you are interested

[hollowpockets]

Never noticed this update to the website, the manifolds pictured look much better, It makes the ones i have on my car look like an apprentice welder's first attempt, very bad!

Adrian W said:

I have a pair of M400 manifolds that look perfect that i could sellif you are interested

Hi Adrian

Drop me a mail with how much your looking for them

Cheers

Graham

Edited by hollowpockets on Wednesday 12th August 10:33

[NobleGuy]

hollowpockets said:

It makes the ones i have on my car look like an apprentice welder's first attempt, very bad!

[daddysumo]

Don't the factory also do stainless manifolds as well ?

How long ago did you send off your clutch ?

Steve

Edited by daddysumo on Wednesday 12th August 12:22

[hollowpockets]

[quote=daddysumo]Don't the factory also do stainless manifolds as well ?

How long ago did you send off your clutch ?

Steve

Yeh the factory do, they look a good improvement over the standard jobbies so i might just go for them.

Clutch went today, expecting a new one back friday/monday.

[daddysumo]

hollowpockets said:

[quote=daddysumo]Don't the factory also do stainless manifolds as well ?

How long ago did you send off your clutch ?

Steve

Yeh the factory do, they look a good improvement over the standard jobbies so i might just go for them.

Clutch went today, expecting a new one back friday/monday.

Ive got the stainless ones they are nice.
I was quoted 10to 14 days for my clutch 14 days ago now they are saying 2 more weeks ! Where you sending yours to and for what to be done ?

Steve

[hollowpockets]

[quote]Ive got the stainless ones they are nice.
I was quoted 10to 14 days for my clutch 14 days ago now they are saying 2 more weeks ! Where you sending yours to and for what to be done ?

Steve
[/quote]


My clutch is going to Mardi Gras Motorsport, they look at it and if its repairable they send me out one they have waiting on the shelf, next day delivery im told.

[daddysumo]

hollowpockets said:

[quote]Ive got the stainless ones they are nice.
I was quoted 10to 14 days for my clutch 14 days ago now they are saying 2 more weeks ! Where you sending yours to and for what to be done ?

Steve

My clutch is going to Mardi Gras Motorsport, they look at it and if its repairable they send me out one they have waiting on the shelf, next day delivery im told.[/quote]

I'm still waititng for mine, sent it to Mardi Gras also, its been at least a week if not nearer two and they say prob two more weeks !
Why cant people stick to what they tell you, makes me mad !!
Hope you get better service.

Steve

[hollowpockets]

Before i fit the new clutch how worthwhile is it to replace the release bearing/slave/master cylinders, have many people had failures?

Also could someone confirm that the part numbers for the lambda sensors listed on the noble wiki page at top are correct for the M400.

Thanks

Graham

Edited by hollowpockets on Wednesday 12th August 16:19

[NobleGuy]

hollowpockets said:

Before i fit the new clutch how worthwhile is it to replace the release bearing/slave/master cylinders, have many people had failures?

Also could someone confirm that the part numbers for the lambda sensors listed on the noble wiki page at top are correct for the M400.

Thanks

Graham

Edited by hollowpockets on Wednesday 12th August 16:19

When my diff went the rest of the components were inspected and found to be in good condition. However, I got the cylinders replaced while the gearbox was out and the new one popped almost straight away. I was covered and everything but it was still a pain in rear end and wished I hadn't bothered. Then again if you don't do it you can gurantee the old will fail instead .

[daddysumo]

Im replacing my master cylinder and release bearing assy 'just incase' so to speak.
The lambda number is wrong in the earlier posts and I have corrected it somewhere along the way so if you go to the last post that will be right. You should see I put a 'was this number' beside it
Steve

[hollowpockets]

Right Mardi Gras recieved my clutch but said they haven't seen one the same as mine with the springs on the centre plate, the ones they provide are rigid centre plates, the Noble factory say the later cars were fitted with springed plates to erradicate a wierd noise that the earlier rigid plates made, there will be less cusioning but i've just decided to go with the rigid design and see how it goes,

G

Edited by hollowpockets on Friday 14th August 15:43