Question for Owen.......
Discussion
I now have some hefty bruises on my left side where the harness and device dug in, but thats a small price to pay for walking away.
Ultimately I transferred enough energy from my car to Bens to shift it about 40ft, so it was an almighty whack ( probably somewhere circa 100 mph bearing in mind I was flat in fifth when the slide started and I hit him about 4 secs later) Im sure that if I hadnt been wearing it my neck would be showing the signs of the trauma involved in moving it from right to left at such a rate. Although my presumption was that they were really designed to work in frontal accidents, Im convinced that in this instance it helped enormously by limiting the amount of lateral movement.
I suppose the proof of the pudding is 4 days later I have no signs of whiplash at all, which no doubt, would have been a completely different story without the HANS. The bruises are good for making the girls go OOOOHHHHH. ( and you should see the one on my leg from where it hit the steering column!)
I would recomend the HANS wholeheartedly.
Ultimately I transferred enough energy from my car to Bens to shift it about 40ft, so it was an almighty whack ( probably somewhere circa 100 mph bearing in mind I was flat in fifth when the slide started and I hit him about 4 secs later) Im sure that if I hadnt been wearing it my neck would be showing the signs of the trauma involved in moving it from right to left at such a rate. Although my presumption was that they were really designed to work in frontal accidents, Im convinced that in this instance it helped enormously by limiting the amount of lateral movement.
I suppose the proof of the pudding is 4 days later I have no signs of whiplash at all, which no doubt, would have been a completely different story without the HANS. The bruises are good for making the girls go OOOOHHHHH. ( and you should see the one on my leg from where it hit the steering column!)
I would recomend the HANS wholeheartedly.
Edited by Obiwonkeyblokey on Thursday 13th August 13:48
Thanks for that Owen. Decission made. I'm off to Tweaks at weekend to get measured up for one as well as helmet and new underwear (the ones I wore on Sunday are too badly soiled to put back on 
). I'm also looking at where I can fit a fuel cell. Looks like the new tyres will have to wait.
). I'm also looking at where I can fit a fuel cell. Looks like the new tyres will have to wait.Matt and i where talking about race seats with the ears before going out to qually, this came about because i keep banging my helmet on the rollcage in the corners(the cockpit is very tight). We will now definetely be changing the seat and getting a hans device. I have been using a kart neck brace up untill now which would be completely useless in a shunt like last weekend.
forgeracing said:
In a matter of time they will become mandatory for sure.
Sam,I agree about the mandatory use and I agree (though in a very considered way) safety first.
My earlier post which I deleated eluded to evaluation and prioritising in relation to Safety. It could have been taken out of context, hence the removal.
Useful info here on the head and neck restraint.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HANS_device
A hans is certainly a good idea, although it my understanding that in sideways impact they dont do much.. there is also an increased risk of collar bone and possibly lung damage. but both are preferable to a basilar skull fracture!!!.
I'd urge anyone to use a neck brace at the very least.. as they are only a few pounds, and a Hans if possible... I've had 2 big side impact offs, one without a neck brace and one with..the one with arguably being bigger.. I still suffer a bit from the first one almost 10 years later, and after a few grands worth in physio!!
I'd urge anyone to use a neck brace at the very least.. as they are only a few pounds, and a Hans if possible... I've had 2 big side impact offs, one without a neck brace and one with..the one with arguably being bigger.. I still suffer a bit from the first one almost 10 years later, and after a few grands worth in physio!!
Kerberos said:
Hi Dave,
I've a feeling you'll possibly need to change the harness as well.
My helmet has Hans Posts fitted and at Rockingham the scrutineer said that my harness was too wide to use with a Hans device if I had one. I hadn't so it didn't matter.
You can use a standard harness with a HANS but you can't use a HANS harness without a HANS. The scrute at Rockingham was incorrect in this caseI've a feeling you'll possibly need to change the harness as well.
My helmet has Hans Posts fitted and at Rockingham the scrutineer said that my harness was too wide to use with a Hans device if I had one. I hadn't so it didn't matter.
I have been using HANS since 2004 and I wouldn't race without it. I changed for the vision tethers this year and it removed the one downside - restricted side vision.
It will do nothing in a side impact though - for that you need a seat with head restraint ears. Easier said than done in a modern TVR - still haven't found a way to fit one in the Sagaris
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It will do nothing in a side impact though - for that you need a seat with head restraint ears. Easier said than done in a modern TVR - still haven't found a way to fit one in the Sagaris
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my Kirky alloy seat has bolt on ears for side protection and that fits in the Tuscan ok... the sag though might be more challenging with the need to get through the door
It will do nothing in a side impact though - for that you need a seat with head restraint ears. Easier said than done in a modern TVR - still haven't found a way to fit one in the Sagaris
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my Kirky alloy seat has bolt on ears for side protection and that fits in the Tuscan ok... the sag though might be more challenging with the need to get through the door
cwin said:
shapeshifter said:
I have eared seats being delivered this week, I wonder if they will fit into my Tuscan with the roof on?
Danny's car has the eared seats in and he has a roof on his Tuscan,can't see what all the trouble is ?Craig
cwin said:
shapeshifter said:
I have eared seats being delivered this week, I wonder if they will fit into my Tuscan with the roof on?
Danny's car has the eared seats in and he has a roof on his Tuscan,can't see what all the trouble is ?Craig
teamHOLDENracing said:
cwin said:
shapeshifter said:
I have eared seats being delivered this week, I wonder if they will fit into my Tuscan with the roof on?
Danny's car has the eared seats in and he has a roof on his Tuscan,can't see what all the trouble is ?Craig
Andy
Would using a HANS devise make getting out of the car more difficult if you had to,(say fire)in the case of Danny's Tuscan.
We are seriouly looking at going that route but dont want to create another problem with regard escaping from a fire ?
Craig
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