Clutch - help !
Clutch - help !
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anonymous-user

Original Poster:

84 months

Friday 14th August 2009
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Got in the car to come to work this morning but it wouldnt' go into gear. There was no crunching or anything, just a refusal to go into any gear.
Clutch peddle felt like it had normal pressure and i couldn't see any liquids on the floor of the garage.

Any ideas? To be honest I didn't spend very long trying to figure it out as i had an early meeting at work so just took the other car.

This is my worst nightmare as the car is parked in my garage at the end of a long steep and curved driveway, there's no way of getting the thing out if i can't drive it out ! banghead

Jimii

182 posts

207 months

Friday 14th August 2009
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First thing to check is the clutch fluid, then I would move on to gearbox oil if those are ok could be master/slave/clutch fingers doubt its the friction plates start with the easy stuff first wink

Gazzab

21,650 posts

312 months

Friday 14th August 2009
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As abovr, check the fluid and you can possibly top up to get into gear to get out of your garage/drive...

fatjon

2,299 posts

243 months

Friday 14th August 2009
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You may find that if you put it in gear then dip the clutch and start it you can at least get it off the drive to get it collected. May just be low fluid but there is often a reason for that like leaking master or slave seals. In any event it will need bleeding after you top it up as it will probably be full of air now.


anonymous-user

Original Poster:

84 months

Friday 14th August 2009
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Cheers guys, will take a look when i get home.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

84 months

Friday 14th August 2009
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Have the layouts of the engine bay changes in newer versions of the 4.2 Cerb's (mines a 2003)?

Checked the owners handbook as to the location of the clutch fluid resevoir and it roughly points to the area of the Brake Fluid resevoir.... but states that it is underneath the engine bay trim panel.

By the position of the arrow in the owners manual I take it that by engine bay trim panel, they meant the piece that runs along the bottom of the windscreen. I removed this panel - and theres nothing where the clutch fluid resevoir should be ??

I also seem to have some sort of fluid filling hole located near the power steering fluid resevoir (but under the cooling fan hoses) with a red cap on, which doesn't appear to be referenced in the manual at all confused any idea what this is?

(Sorry if this post is senseless - As you can tell, I've not much experience in these matters smile )




BLUETHUNDER

7,881 posts

290 months

Friday 14th August 2009
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It sounds more like the fingers have gone to me.

kojak

4,547 posts

283 months

Friday 14th August 2009
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BLUETHUNDER said:
It sounds more like the fingers have gone to me.
yes

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

84 months

Friday 14th August 2009
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kojak said:
BLUETHUNDER said:
It sounds more like the fingers have gone to me.
yes
On a scale of 1 - cry ... how much ?

BLUETHUNDER

7,881 posts

290 months

Friday 14th August 2009
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Well. If you do the clutch. Then its best to do the slave as well. As the slave is located inside the bell housing. last thing you want to do.Is have a new clutch fitted. Then a few weeks or mnths go by and the slave lets go.The whole lot will have to come out again.

I reckon a £1000-£1500 all in. Depending on the indie you use.

VPower

3,598 posts

224 months

Friday 14th August 2009
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Bandit said:
Have the layouts of the engine bay changes in newer versions of the 4.2 Cerb's (mines a 2003)?

Checked the owners handbook as to the location of the clutch fluid resevoir and it roughly points to the area of the Brake Fluid resevoir.... but states that it is underneath the engine bay trim panel.

By the position of the arrow in the owners manual I take it that by engine bay trim panel, they meant the piece that runs along the bottom of the windscreen. I removed this panel - and theres nothing where the clutch fluid resevoir should be ??

I also seem to have some sort of fluid filling hole located near the power steering fluid resevoir (but under the cooling fan hoses) with a red cap on, which doesn't appear to be referenced in the manual at all confused any idea what this is?

(Sorry if this post is senseless - As you can tell, I've not much experience in these matters smile )
Firstly try pumping the clutch pedal a couple of times and then try to engage gear.


Remove the panel that has a hole in it for the brake fluid filler.
Below the brake fluid filler, there is a sealed cover on the inner wing.
Remove this and you gain access to the clutch fluid filler.


Steve

ridds

8,372 posts

274 months

Friday 14th August 2009
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Is it likely to be fingers on a 2003 car? I thought the design was revised and didn't occur on later cars.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

84 months

Saturday 15th August 2009
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Just spoke to Jason at STR8SIX, he has very kindly offered to come and tow the Cerb out of my garage and up the drive with his Land Rover and then pop in on the back of his transport tank

Clutch doesn't look good... but this is the first problem I've had with the car for 7 months.

ho hum.

bandit

Far Eastender

1,362 posts

248 months

Saturday 15th August 2009
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I had a similar problem. Couldn't get the car in gear when the engine was running, but could get in any gear without the engine switched on. Turned out that one of the fingers had broken on this 2001 spec clutch.

ridds

8,372 posts

274 months

Saturday 15th August 2009
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I really had no idea that this design fault had been carried over for so long. eek

kojak

4,547 posts

283 months

Saturday 15th August 2009
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Far Eastender said:
I had a similar problem. Couldn't get the car in gear when the engine was running, but could get in any gear without the engine switched on. Turned out that one of the fingers had broken on this 2001 spec clutch.
Exactly with mine...twice.

Byker28i

91,859 posts

247 months

Saturday 15th August 2009
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I'm not sure it's a design fault with the clutch but possibly the slave? Do you think it's possible the slave can extend too far, putting extra strain on the fingers?

That's my explanation for my short legs extending the life of my original clutch biggrin

Scrooloose

888 posts

246 months

Saturday 15th August 2009
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BLUETHUNDER said:
Well. If you do the clutch. Then its best to do the slave as well. As the slave is located inside the bell housing. last thing you want to do.Is have a new clutch fitted. Then a few weeks or mnths go by and the slave lets go.The whole lot will have to come out again.

I reckon a £1000-£1500 all in. Depending on the indie you use.
APM did both for me for less than a grand....

BLUETHUNDER

7,881 posts

290 months

Saturday 15th August 2009
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Scrooloose said:
BLUETHUNDER said:
Well. If you do the clutch. Then its best to do the slave as well. As the slave is located inside the bell housing. last thing you want to do.Is have a new clutch fitted. Then a few weeks or mnths go by and the slave lets go.The whole lot will have to come out again.

I reckon a £1000-£1500 all in. Depending on the indie you use.
APM did both for me for less than a grand....
I bet most of that is down to his labour rate being low.