Shimano
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milleman

Original Poster:

147 posts

268 months

Friday 14th August 2009
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New to cycling and just want some advice.

It appears that nearly every bike has Shimano gears, on a road bike what is the pecking order in terms of quality?

As a relative novice (who is loving at and alraedy toying with changing his bike), would I notice a difference?

cheers


Hard-Drive

4,274 posts

252 months

Friday 14th August 2009
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For Shimano lower end kit, you drop down a gear by hitting a thumb button. You can only do this from the hoods, compromising sprints. This is despite Campag having a similar system, but a button that can be reached from the drops too.

Higher end Shimano has a second lever behind the brake to drop a cog which is better. However I don't like either, as you must swing the entire brake lever to go to a bigger cog.

SRAM works in the same way across their model range, the brake lever does the stopping and moves in the expected plane only, and a second "double tap" lever behind it shifts up or down depending on how much you move it. You can sometimes shift the wrong way whilst you're getting the hang of it, but it's soon intuitive.

SRAM kit only tends to appear on higher end roadies, as their base Rival gruppo is equivalent to Ultegra, so you are more likely to come across Shimano lower end. If you want to upgrade to a higer end Shimano lever, it is expensive I'm afraid, and STI levers rarely come up on eBay or similar.

Edited by Hard-Drive on Friday 14th August 16:02

JPJ

421 posts

272 months

Friday 14th August 2009
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Acera is towards the bottom end of the range, then going upwards it is:
- 105
- Ultegra
- Dura Ace

Nick_F

10,598 posts

269 months

Friday 14th August 2009
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JPJ said:
Acera is towards the bottom end of the range, then going upwards it is:
- 105
- Ultegra
- Dura Ace
In ascending order:

Anything beginning with 'A'
Sora
Tiagra
105
Ultegra
Dura-Ace

Often mixed, too. EG Ultegra rear derailleur on a bike which otherwise has full 105.

anonymous-user

77 months

Friday 14th August 2009
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from memory, shimano dedicated road stuff is ordered accordingly;

Dura-Ace
Ultegra something (might be called ice grey?, i think its just a different colour but there may be more to it than that?)
Ultegra
105 (comes in black or silver)
Tiagra
Sora
2200

then there is other stuff like Acera and Alivio that adorn various hybrid and lower end mtb bikes but sometimes features on low end road stuff too.

in general, and from experience, there is little wrong with the shifters and mechs for the front, its at the back that you notice the difference in quality. perhaps this is because you tend to
use the rear mech more often and also require it to be more accurate. my advice would be to upgrade the rear mech first, for general road riding, something like 105 is more than adequate, you should be able to pick one up new from around £35-£40. see how you get on, then consider upgrading the shifters...

shifters are available as individual (left or right hand) items so its worth dropping an enquiry into
the big unit shifters like wiggle, chain reaction etc as well as your local bike shops. shifters are quite expensive however and dont make as much financial sense regarding upgrades as the rear mech, but in turn, you may not notice the benefits of the rear mech upgrade in full, without slightly better and more accurate shifters....


it sounds daft but good quality cables also make a difference, they dont stretch as much as cheaper cables and this makes for more accurate shifting over time.

Saddle bum

4,211 posts

242 months

Friday 14th August 2009
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I'd rather walk than ride Shimnano, (after decades of using Campagnolo). cool

Nick_F

10,598 posts

269 months

Friday 14th August 2009
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There's always one.

Surely SRAM are now the true manifestation of the Evil Empire?

raf_gti

4,219 posts

229 months

Friday 28th August 2009
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Saddle bum said:
I'd rather walk than ride Shimnano, (after decades of using Campagnolo). cool
Why is that exactly?

I ride Campag on my road bike and love it but I also ride full XT on my MTB and also love it! Wear on XT is fairly high but I put that down to the mud and grit etc.

Saddle bum

4,211 posts

242 months

Friday 28th August 2009
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raf_gti said:
Saddle bum said:
I'd rather walk than ride Shimnano, (after decades of using Campagnolo). cool
Why is that exactly?

I ride Campag on my road bike and love it but I also ride full XT on my MTB and also love it! Wear on XT is fairly high but I put that down to the mud and grit etc.
I don't own and MTB.

pete a

3,799 posts

207 months

Saturday 29th August 2009
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so how does the campag range compare to the s ram or shimano range??

LRdriver II

1,936 posts

272 months

Sunday 30th August 2009
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they are all competitors really and in the high end stuff you simply choose the looks and interface you prefer... oh yea and budget too

Campagnolo has been around since the dawn of cycling, so is like Ferrari and garners same passion and history amongst its fans.

cheadle hulme

2,499 posts

205 months

Sunday 30th August 2009
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If you like your freehub to make a noise, choose Campag, otherwise choose Shimano.

SkinnyBoy

4,635 posts

281 months

Sunday 30th August 2009
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